[gmx-users] RE: RE : FEP : separating components of dgdl

Berk Hess gmx3 at hotmail.com
Tue Jan 29 15:08:31 CET 2008



I overlooked that you printed dVdl, not dGdl.
Without looking into the code, I would not know where term is missing.
Can you figure out if any energy terms are missing in the print?
Please check if all energy terms in de log file are present in the dvdl print.
I would guess that the dvdl numbers are correct, but there could be a mistake
in there as well.

Selectively turning off perturbations would find it, but that is a bit of work.

Berk.


> It is a single processor simulation.
> 
> As I change some masses,I have indeed a change in Ekin (-1,23e+00) , but it should not explain what happens with Vpot, should it ?
> I also have position restraints whose parameters do not change, so dVdl should be 0, which is what it reads.  I did
> not copy this in my previous mail, I should have.
> 
> Thanks for your help,
> Michael  Bon
> 
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>    1. Re: dihedral restraints wiki section (Behnoush Zare)
>    2. RE : FEP : separating components of dgdl (BON Michael)
>    3. RE: RE : FEP : separating components of dgdl (Berk Hess)
>    4. Re: dihedral restraints wiki section (Xavier Periole)
>    5. Re: GROMACS ON CYGWIN. (Nabajyoti Goswami)
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 13:06:14 +0330 (IRST)
> From: Behnoush Zare <bzare at iums.ac.ir>
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> Dear chris,
> 
> Thank you for your help about performing dihedral restraints. Would you please kindly explain to me how I can measure the value of dihedral angles between two amin acids (I mean C'-N-C-C' and N-C-C'-N).
> Thank you in advance for your valuable aid.
> 
> Behnoush
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> From: "chris neale" <chris.neale at utoronto.ca>
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> I have added a section on dihedral restraints to the wiki.
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> http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Dihedral_Restraints
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:24:57 +0100
> From: "BON Michael" <michael.bon at cea.fr>
> Subject: [gmx-users] RE : FEP : separating components of dgdl
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> Thanks for the quick reply.
> 
> I have an other question : I ran a quick simulation on a single node using mdrun -sepdvdl and the components are written in
> the .log file. But the final value of dVpot/dlambda doesn't seem to be the sum of the components above. Example for some step:
> 
> VdW and Coulomb SR : dVdl -2.72859e+02
> Angle :              dVdl  3.56537e+00
> Proper Dih. :        dVdl -7.31260e-03
> Ryckaert-Bell. :     dVdl -1.13654e-01
> LJ-14 + Coulomb-14 : dVdl  6.39499e+02
> Dispersion correc. : dVdl  0.00000e+00
> 
> And I read : dVpot/dlambda = 3.62310e+02, instead of 3.70e+02.
> 
> There is no PME in this sim.
> 
> What did I forget ?
> 
> Many thanks in advance,
> 
> Michaël Bon
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> > Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:24:57 +0100
> > From: michael.bon at cea.fr
> > To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> > Subject: RE : FEP : separating components of dgdl
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the quick reply.
> >
> > I have an other question : I ran a quick simulation on a single node using mdrun -sepdvdl and the components are written in
> > the .log file. But the final value of dVpot/dlambda doesn't seem to be the sum of the components above. Example for some step:
> >
> > VdW and Coulomb SR : dVdl -2.72859e+02
> > Angle :              dVdl  3.56537e+00
> > Proper Dih. :        dVdl -7.31260e-03
> > Ryckaert-Bell. :     dVdl -1.13654e-01
> > LJ-14 + Coulomb-14 : dVdl  6.39499e+02
> > Dispersion correc. : dVdl  0.00000e+00
> >
> > And I read : dVpot/dlambda = 3.62310e+02, instead of 3.70e+02.
> >
> > There is no PME in this sim.
> >
> > What did I forget ?
> 
> I assume you are running single processor.
> The terms are per processor.
> 
> I think that the only contributions that are no added are:
> constraints, only when you change constraint lengths,
> kinetic energy, only when you change masses.
> 
> So do you change constraint lengths or masses?
> 
> Berk.
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 10:47:45 +0100
> From: "Xavier Periole" <X.Periole at rug.nl>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section
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> > Thank you for your help about performing dihedral restraints. Would you
> >please kindly explain to me how I can measure the value of dihedral angles
> >between two amin acids (I mean C'-N-C-C' and N-C-C'-N).
> > Thank you in advance for your valuable aid.
> 
> Well this should really be easy to find out! check out the manual,
> there is section ANALYSIS ... g_angle is one option.
> 
> >
> > Behnoush
> >
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> >From: "chris neale" <chris.neale at utoronto.ca>
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> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 11:49:42 PM (GMT+0330) Asia/Tehran
> > Subject: [gmx-users] dihedral restraints wiki section
> >
> > I have added a section on dihedral restraints to the wiki.
> >
> > http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Dihedral_Restraints
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> Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:21:37 +0530
> From: "Nabajyoti Goswami" <nabajyoti.goswami at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] GROMACS ON CYGWIN.
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> If you are in windows and want to use gromacs by cygwin I suggest you to use
> the window version of gromacs. place all gromacs executable into
> C:/cygwin/home/bin *or* C:/windows/system32. It must work.
> 
> On Jan 28, 2008 8:29 AM, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> > DAVID RINCON wrote:
> > > Good morning people,
> > >
> > > I want to install gromacs on my laptop and I have installed cygwin and
> > > some necessery gromacs libraries as fftw. But, when I am going to
> > install,
> > >
> > > glibc
> > >
> > > just in the first step with ./configure. That broke down. :S
> >
> > Imagine I rang my car mechanic and told him that the car was borken and
> > the spare tyre was making a weird noise, and asked him what was wrong...
> > He'd ask me to bring him the car or describe the problem better. :-)
> >
> > > Someone has installed gromacs on their computers?
> > > How can I do it?
> >
> > Start here http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/GROMACS_on_Windows and
> > check out the general advice here
> > http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html<http://www.catb.org/%7Eesr/faqs/smart-questions.html>
> >
> > Mark
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