[gmx-users] bicelle gromacs MD simulation CG model?

ANINDITA GAYEN aninditagayen at yahoo.co.in
Fri Jun 13 16:30:28 CEST 2008



if i refine the chaps.itp with opls charges, will it be active? 

If not, what can i do then? should i use cholesterol in place of chaps?
if yes, where to do download from ?

--- On Fri, 13/6/08, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

> From: Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] bicelle gromacs MD simulation CG model?
> To: aninditagayen at yahoo.co.in
> Cc: "Gromacs Users' List" <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
> Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 4:50 PM
> ANINDITA GAYEN wrote:
> > I have build the itp file from PRODG2 DUNDEE server.
> and then replaced the stom types from OPLS. Can you comment
> about the itp file, i can serve that to u.
> >
> >   
> 
> Please make sure you are replying to the gmx-users
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> 
> I don't think your approach is very sound.  The PRODRG
> server generates 
> GROMOS-compatible topologies, so supplying OPLS atom types
> with GROMOS 
> bond, angle, etc. parameters probably will not lead to a
> very 
> self-consistent topology. 
> 
> As a general note, be aware that the charges and charge
> groups assigned 
> by PRODRG are often unsatisfactory, and require refinement.
> 
> -Justin
> 
> > --- On Fri, 13/6/08, Justin A. Lemkul
> <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> From: Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] bicelle gromacs MD
> simulation CG model?
> >> To: aninditagayen at yahoo.co.in
> >> Cc: "Gromacs Users' List"
> <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
> >> Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 4:25 PM
> >> ANINDITA GAYEN wrote:
> >>     
> >>> You can find my paper on Langmuir vol 24,
> Issue 10,
> >>>       
> >> pages 5422-5432 2008, I have made two bicelle
> samples
> >> experimentally, and now i want to model those two
> bicelles
> >> theorically to connect the theory with the NMR
> experimental
> >> data. I have euilibrated a dmpc bilayer in
> OPLS-BERGER force
> >> field already, but confused about the
> incorporation of chaps
> >> since it is not a bilayer component. I have 128
> lipid square
> >> bilayer. Is it possible to model such a bilayer
> that will
> >> have chaps at the edge from this force field or
> may i use
> >> the coarse grain model to build it? can you
> suggest
> >> anything?
> >>     
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >> Conceivably, you could do either, as long as the
> parameters
> >> you derive 
> >> are with are consistent with the original force
> field.  It
> >> won't be 
> >> easy; the structure of CHAPS has some odd
> functional groups
> >> to deal 
> >> with, so I don't know that the existing Berger
> lipid
> >> parameters will be 
> >> applicable, but that doesn't mean they
> couldn't be
> >> extended to include 
> >> your molecule.  As for a CG model, there are also
> some
> >> challenges there, 
> >> as well.  There is a CG topology for cholesterol
> online,
> >> which could 
> >> serve as a starting framework for CHAPS, but
> applying the
> >> appropriate 
> >> particles to the rest of the molecule (quaternary
> amine,
> >> sulfate) would 
> >> require thorough evaluation of the atom types
> available in
> >> MARTINI.
> >>
> >> -Justin
> >>
> >>     
> >>> --- On Fri, 13/6/08, Justin A. Lemkul
> >>>       
> >> <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> >>     
> >>>   
> >>>       
> >>>> From: Justin A. Lemkul
> <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> >>>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] bicelle gromacs
> MD
> >>>>         
> >> simulation CG model?
> >>     
> >>>> To: aninditagayen at yahoo.co.in,
> "Discussion
> >>>>         
> >> list for GROMACS users"
> <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
> >>     
> >>>> Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 3:54 PM
> >>>> Can you be more specific as to what you
> need help
> >>>>         
> >> on? 
> >>     
> >>>> I'm familiar with 
> >>>> a couple of these papers, and the methods
> sections
> >>>>         
> >> are
> >>     
> >>>> quite good.  
> >>>> Files are freely available on S.J.
> Marrink's
> >>>>         
> >> site, as
> >>     
> >>>> well as a list of 
> >>>> pertinent publications detailing their
> >>>>         
> >> methodology.
> >>     
> >>>> -Justin
> >>>>
> >>>> ANINDITA GAYEN wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>> --- On Fri, 13/6/08, ANINDITA GAYEN
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>> <aninditagayen at yahoo.co.in> wrote:
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>   
> >>>>>       
> >>>>>           
> >>>>>> From: ANINDITA GAYEN
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> <aninditagayen at yahoo.co.in>
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> Subject: 
> >>>>>> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> >>>>>> Date: Friday, 13 June, 2008, 9:56
> AM
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>   I several papers of Marrink,
> Siewert J.;
> >>>>>>             
> >> Mark,
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> Alan E,
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> and in a paper of Yong Jiang,
> bicelles are
> >>>>>>             
> >> modeled
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> with CG
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> model. 
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> JCP 126, 045105 (2007) Jiang Y.
> >>>>>> Biophys. j. 87 182-192 Jiang Y.
> >>>>>>  Effect of Undulations on Surface
> Tension
> >>>>>>             
> >> in
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> Simulated
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> Bilayers
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Marrink, S. J.; Mark, A. E. J.
> Phys. Chem.
> >>>>>>             
> >> B.;
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> (Article);
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> 2001; 105(26); 6122-6127.  DOI:
> >>>>>>             
> >> 10.1021/jp0103474.
> >>     
> >>>>>>  Molecular Dynamics Simulations of
> Mixed
> >>>>>>             
> >> Micelles
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> Modeling
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> Human Bile
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Marrink, S. J.; Mark, A. E.
> >>>>>> Biochemistry; (Article); 2002;
> 41(17);
> >>>>>>             
> >> 5375-5382. 
> >>     
> >>>>>>  Molecular Dynamics Simulation of
> the
> >>>>>>             
> >> Kinetics of
> >>     
> >>>>>> Spontaneous Micelle Formation
> >>>>>> Marrink, S. J.; Tieleman, D. P.;
> Mark, A.
> >>>>>>             
> >> E.
> >>     
> >>>>>> J. Phys. Chem. B.; (Article);
> 2000;
> >>>>>>             
> >> 104(51);
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> 12165-12173. 
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> Can someone help me?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Message: 7
> >>>>>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 02:21:48
> +1000
> >>>>>> From: Mark Abraham
> >>>>>>             
> >> <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
> >>     
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] bicelle
> gromacs
> >>>>>>             
> >> MD
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> simulation CG
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> model?
> >>>>>> To: Discussion list for GROMACS
> users
> >>>>>> <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
> >>>>>> Message-ID:
> >>>>>>             
> >> <48514D1C.4080108 at anu.edu.au>
> >>     
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> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> format=flowed
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> ANINDITA GAYEN wrote:
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> hi all,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> can someone give me
> information how to
> >>>>>>>               
> >> model a
> >>     
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>> bicelle
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>> using gromacs? I have dmpc:chaps
> as the
> >>>>>>             
> >> bicelle
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> components,
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> and i came to know that coarse
> grain model
> >>>>>>             
> >> can
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> help me.
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>>>>> But, the picture is still not
> clear.
> >>>>>>>               
> >> Please
> >>     
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>> help me to
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>>>       
> >>>>>>>           
> >>>>>>>               
> >>>>>> make the bicelle in gromacs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Have you searched the web and the
> >>>>>>             
> >> literature to
> >>     
> >>>>>>         
> >>>>>>             
> >>>> see if
> >>>>     
> >>>>         
> >>>>>> anybody else has
> >>>>>> done something like this?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>> Justin A. Lemkul
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> >>>> Department of Biochemistry
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> >> Justin A. Lemkul
> >> Graduate Research Assistant
> >> Department of Biochemistry
> >> Virginia Tech
> >> Blacksburg, VA
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> Justin A. Lemkul
> Graduate Research Assistant
> Department of Biochemistry
> Virginia Tech
> Blacksburg, VA
> jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
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