[gmx-users] Running MD only for selected part of molecule

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Fri Oct 17 13:25:38 CEST 2008



vivek sharma wrote:
> Hi Justin,
> Thanks for your reply...
> and apologies for asking you again.
> 
> If I want to keep a part of my molecule fix, say part out of 12 angstrom 
> radius from the ligand and also want to make avoid energy calculation 
> for the same, (using energy_excl)
> Do I need to mention the separate group for that part of molecule, (as I 
> already did to make that part position restrained), and next how I will 
> mention those part in .mdp file...
> Is it like...
> energy_excl           groupname protein/solvent   (if I want to avoid 
> energy calculation between the group and protein/solvent)
> or something else need to be done than that (like during genpr option).
> 

Pretty much.  See the manual, section 7.3.18 for an example.

-Justin

> Please explain....As I have no idea to play with such option...
> 
> My apologies again, if these small question irritates you.......
> 
> With Thanks,
> Vivek
> 
> 2008/10/15 Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>
> 
> 
> 
>     vivek sharma wrote:
> 
> 
>         Dear Justin,
>         Thanks for your reply..
>         But I am not getting how and where should I give the option of
>         energy_excl. For freezing a part of molecule ?
> 
> 
>     In the .mdp file.
> 
> 
>         what are the other checks to be done for the same ?
> 
> 
>     I don't know what you're asking.
> 
>     -Justin
> 
>         With Thanks,
>         Vivek
> 
>         2008/10/14 Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
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> 
> 
> 
>            vivek sharma wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>                2008/10/14 Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
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> 
> 
> 
>                   vivek sharma wrote:
> 
>                       Hi there,
> 
>                       I tried the mdrun by keeping a group of residue
>         position
>                       restrained, and it is working well (verified by
>         comparing
>                RMSD
>                       plot for the same), thanks for your suggestions
>         regarding
>                the same.
>                       But, I have seen that the part of the molecule I
>         kept for
>                PR is
>                       still having some motion, how can I keep that part
>         rigid ?
> 
> 
>                   Position restraints do not necessarily guarantee that
>         atomic
>                   positions stay absolutely fixed.  Instead, there is an
>         energy
>                   penalty for moving them, which could in some cases be
>         overcome.
> 
> 
>                       I am not getting any idea of energy_excl option
>         mentioned
>                above,
>                       please explain.
> 
> 
>                   The freezegrps option can be used to fix atomic
>         positions, but in
>                   this case large forces can be generated within the frozen
>                group.  As
>                   such, you can apply energygrp_excl to exclude
>         energetic terms
>                within
>                   the frozen group.
> 
> 
>                Will it help me in reducing the time taken for the
>         simulation if
>                I'll keep the part of molecule frozen ?
> 
> 
>            I've never used freezegrps for any large set of atoms, so
>         maybe.  If
>            you've got surrounding solvent, though, the nonbonded
>         interactions
>            are still calculated between the frozen group and solvent, unless
>            you turn that off too.  But then it starts getting really
>            unphysical, in my view.
> 
>            -Justin
> 
>                Thanks,
>                ~Vivek
> 
> 
> 
>                   -Justin
> 
>                       With Thanks,
>                       Vivek
> 
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> 
>                          Hi,
> 
> 
>                          On Oct 10, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>         wrote:
> 
> 
>                                  I want to run MD over a part of my
>         molecule ,
>                for few
>                                  residues only (not the whole molecule).
>                                  Can I do it using GROMACS ?
>                                  I searched for the online documentation and
>                mailing list,
>                                  but unable to get appropriate information.
>                                  If somebody has already tried such things
>                earlier, please
>                                  suggest and direct me for appropriate
>         link and
>                address.
> 
> 
>                              Well, if your goal is to keep certain parts
>         fixed
>                and allow
>                              others to move, probably the easiest way to
>         do it
>                is to apply
>                              position restraints to the "fixed" part.
> 
> 
>                          You can also set parts of the system as a freeze
>                group, in which
>                          case you can exclude all nonbonded interactions
>         inside
>                the freeze
>                          group with the energygrp_excl option in your
>         mdp file.
> 
>                          The main advantage of this is of course that
>         you will
>                improve
>                          performance if 99% of your system is frozen
>         (although all
>                          interactions between the frozen and non-frozen
>         parts still
>                       have to
>                          be calculated). On the other hand, completely
>         freezing
>                part
>                       of the
>                          system is not very realistic, and you're likely
>         to get
>                strange
>                          behavior in the interface...
> 
>                          Cheers,
> 
>                          Erik
> 
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>            Justin A. Lemkul
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>            Department of Biochemistry
>            Virginia Tech
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>     Justin A. Lemkul
>     Graduate Research Assistant
>     Department of Biochemistry
>     Virginia Tech
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Justin A. Lemkul
Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
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