[gmx-users] Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep

nishap.patel at utoronto.ca nishap.patel at utoronto.ca
Mon Dec 14 20:07:05 CET 2009



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     Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:06:30 -0500
     From: nishap.patel at utoronto.ca
Reply-To: nishap.patel at utoronto.ca
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep
       To: "Justin A. Lemkul" <jalemkul at vt.edu>

I tried to run minimization step and I got the following error:
Steepest Descents:
     Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+01
     Number of steps    =        25000
Step=    1, Dmax= 1.0e-02 nm, Epot=  1.57470e+09 Fmax= 2.12566e+11, atom= 4973
Step=    2, Dmax= 1.2e-02 nm, Epot=  2.42785e+08 Fmax= 2.02821e+10, atom= 4985
Step=    3, Dmax= 1.4e-02 nm, Epot=  6.83525e+07 Fmax= 2.24629e+09, atom= 4973
Step=    4, Dmax= 1.7e-02 nm, Epot=  1.36192e+07 Fmax= 2.34481e+08, atom= 4985
Step=    5, Dmax= 2.1e-02 nm, Epot=  3.37948e+06 Fmax= 2.50839e+07, atom= 4973
Step=    6, Dmax= 2.5e-02 nm, Epot=  9.58580e+05 Fmax= 2.79175e+06, atom= 1321
Step=    7, Dmax= 3.0e-02 nm, Epot=  2.98861e+05 Fmax= 3.83032e+06, atom= 4973
Step=    8, Dmax= 3.6e-02 nm, Epot=  2.15478e+05 Fmax= 5.79850e+05, atom= 4973
Step=    9, Dmax= 4.3e-02 nm, Epot=  7.16581e+04 Fmax= 1.12895e+06, atom= 4973
Step=   10, Dmax= 5.2e-02 nm, Epot=  4.39860e+04 Fmax= 7.57820e+04, atom= 101

t = 0.022 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 101 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step11b.pdb to ./#step11b.pdb.6#

Back Off! I just backed up step11c.pdb to ./#step11c.pdb.6#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   11, Dmax= 6.2e-02 nm, Epot= -1.94430e+04 Fmax= 7.60249e+04, atom= 102
Step=   12, Dmax= 7.4e-02 nm, Epot= -2.29926e+04 Fmax= 3.21409e+05, atom= 4917

t = 0.026 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4917 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step13b.pdb to ./#step13b.pdb.6#

Back Off! I just backed up step13c.pdb to ./#step13c.pdb.6#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   14, Dmax= 4.5e-02 nm, Epot= -2.80812e+04 Fmax= 1.42056e+04, atom= 9577
Step=   15, Dmax= 5.3e-02 nm, Epot= -3.28009e+04 Fmax= 1.37135e+05, atom= 4893

t = 0.032 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4893 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step16b.pdb to ./#step16b.pdb.6#

Back Off! I just backed up step16c.pdb to ./#step16c.pdb.6#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   16, Dmax= 6.4e-02 nm, Epot= -3.72070e+04 Fmax= 2.01112e+04, atom= 1217

t = 0.034 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 4917 can not be settled.
Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.

Back Off! I just backed up step17b.pdb to ./#step17b.pdb.2#

Back Off! I just backed up step17c.pdb to ./#step17c.pdb.2#
Wrote pdb files with previous and current coordinates
Step=   33, Dmax= 1.2e-06 nm, Epot= -1.10597e+04 Fmax= 1.29469e+06, atom= 4893
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax < 10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 34 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax < 10.
Potential Energy  = -3.7206969e+04
Maximum force     =  2.0111207e+04 on atom 1217
Norm of force     =  6.9283209e+02

I don't understand constraints I need to turn off, since I haven't
mentioned any in my grompp file.

-Nisha

>
>
> nishap.patel at utoronto.ca wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am trying to run a simulation with 1360 Tip4p water molecules and  
>>   one methane molecule (Box size: 35.500 35.3371 35.500 and Total    
>> 5541 atoms) but I am getting the error:
>>
>> t = 0.000 ps: Water molecule starting at atom 5433 can not be settled.
>> Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the timestep.
>>
>
> Have you done sufficient energy minimization?  General information can
> be found within the wiki pages of the Gromacs site, i.e.:
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors#LINCS.2fSETTLE.2fSHAKE_warnings
>
> -Justin
>
>> Here is my grompp. file :
>>
>>
>> ; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS =
>> integrator               = md
>> ; start time and timestep in ps =
>> tinit                    = 0.0
>> dt                       = 0.002
>> nsteps                   = 25000
>> ; number of steps for center of mass motion removal =
>> nstcomm                  = 1
>>
>> ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS
>> emtol                    = 10000
>> emstep                   = 0.01
>>
>> ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS =
>> ; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f) =
>> nstxout                  = 1000
>> nstvout                  = 1000
>> nstfout                  = 0
>> ; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file =
>> nstlog                   = 0
>> nstenergy                = 100
>> ; Output frequency and precision for xtc file =
>> nstxtcout                = 100
>> xtc_precision            = 1000
>> ; This selects the subset of atoms for the xtc file. =
>> ; Only the first group gets written out, it does not make sense =
>> ; to have multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written =
>> xtc_grps                 =
>> ; Selection of energy groups =
>> energygrps               = CH4 SOL
>>
>>
>> ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS =
>> ; nblist update frequency =
>> nstlist                  = 1.0
>> ; ns algorithm (simple or grid) =
>> ns_type                  = grid
>> ; nblist cut-off         =
>> rlist                    = 1.0
>>
>> ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW =
>> ; Method for doing electrostatics =
>> coulomb_type             = pme
>> rcoulomb_switch          = 0
>> rcoulomb                 = 1.0
>> ; Dielectric constant (DC) for cut-off or DC of reaction field =
>> epsilon_r                = 1.0
>> epsilon_rf               = 0
>> ; Method for doing Van der Waals =
>> vdw_type                 = Cut-off
>> ; cut-off lengths        =
>> rvdw_switch              = 0
>> rvdw                     = 1.0
>> dispcorr                 = enerpres
>>
>> ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS =
>> ; Temperature coupling   =
>> tcoupl                   = v-rescale
>> ; Groups to couple separately =
>> tc-grps                  = system
>> ; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K) =
>> tau_t                    = 0.1
>> ref_t                    = 300
>>
>> ; Pressure coupling      =
>> Pcoupl                   = Berendsen
>> ; Time constant (ps), compressibility (1/bar) and reference P (bar) =
>> tau_p                    = 1.0
>> compressibility          = 4.6e-5
>> ref_p                    = 1
>>
>>
>> ; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN =
>> gen_vel                  = yes
>> gen_temp                 = 300
>> gen_seed                 = 171533
>>
>> I am new to this, so any inputs would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>
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