[gmx-users] TIP5P - dummies sit on top of each other

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Tue May 12 14:30:03 CEST 2009



ilona.baldus at bioquant.uni-heidelberg.de wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am trying to change my ice crystal from a three-site water model to 
> the TIP5P water model. For that I use pdb2gmx. The program adds the two 
> dummy atoms, but they are at exactly the same position as the oxygen and 
> not two additional sites as stated by the paper and also as I find in 
> the file /gromacs/top/tip5p.gro.
> 
> For a small ice crystal my problem looks like this:
> 
> Original ice.gro file:
> 
> Groningen Machine for Chemical Simulation
>    24
>     2 SOL    OW    1   0.000   0.000   0.000
>     2 SOL   HW1    2   0.000   0.000   0.096
>     2 SOL   HW2    3   0.078   0.045  -0.032
>     3 SOL    OW    4   0.224   0.129  -0.091
>     3 SOL   HW1    5   0.224   0.129  -0.187
>     3 SOL   HW2    6   0.302   0.084  -0.059
>     4 SOL    OW    7   0.224   0.387   0.000
>     4 SOL   HW1    8   0.146   0.433  -0.032
>     4 SOL   HW2    9   0.224   0.297  -0.032
>     5 SOL    OW   10   0.000   0.517  -0.091
>     5 SOL   HW1   11  -0.078   0.472  -0.059
>     5 SOL   HW2   12   0.000   0.607  -0.059
>     6 SOL    OW   13   0.000   0.000   0.274
>     6 SOL   HW1   14  -0.078   0.045   0.306
>     6 SOL   HW2   15   0.000  -0.090   0.306
>     7 SOL    OW   16   0.224   0.129   0.365
>     7 SOL   HW1   17   0.146   0.084   0.333
>     7 SOL   HW2   18   0.224   0.219   0.333
>     8 SOL    OW   19   0.224   0.387   0.274
>     8 SOL   HW1   20   0.224   0.387   0.178
>     8 SOL   HW2   21   0.302   0.433   0.306
>     9 SOL    OW   22   0.000   0.517   0.365
>     9 SOL   HW1   23   0.000   0.517   0.461
>     9 SOL   HW2   24   0.078   0.472   0.333
>    0.44744   0.77499   0.73067
> 
> 
> Modified (supposedly tip5p) .gro file:
> 
> Groningen Machine for Chemical Simulation
>    40
>     1HO5    HW1    1   0.000   0.000   0.096
>     1HO5    HW2    2   0.078   0.045  -0.032
>     1HO5     OW    3   0.000   0.000   0.000
>     1HO5    HW3    4   0.000   0.000   0.000
>     1HO5    HW4    5   0.000   0.000   0.000
>     2HO5    HW1    6   0.224   0.129  -0.187
>     2HO5    HW2    7   0.302   0.084  -0.059
>     2HO5     OW    8   0.224   0.129  -0.091
>     2HO5    HW3    9   0.224   0.129  -0.091
>     2HO5    HW4   10   0.224   0.129  -0.091
>     3HO5    HW1   11   0.146   0.433  -0.032
>     3HO5    HW2   12   0.224   0.297  -0.032
>     3HO5     OW   13   0.224   0.387   0.000
>     3HO5    HW3   14   0.224   0.387   0.000
>     3HO5    HW4   15   0.224   0.387   0.000
>     4HO5    HW1   16  -0.078   0.472  -0.059
>     4HO5    HW2   17   0.000   0.607  -0.059
>     4HO5     OW   18   0.000   0.517  -0.091
>     4HO5    HW3   19   0.000   0.517  -0.091
>     4HO5    HW4   20   0.000   0.517  -0.091
>     5HO5    HW1   21  -0.078   0.045   0.306
>     5HO5    HW2   22   0.000  -0.090   0.306
>     5HO5     OW   23   0.000   0.000   0.274
>     5HO5    HW3   24   0.000   0.000   0.274
>     5HO5    HW4   25   0.000   0.000   0.274
>     6HO5    HW1   26   0.146   0.084   0.333
>     6HO5    HW2   27   0.224   0.219   0.333
>     6HO5     OW   28   0.224   0.129   0.365
>     6HO5    HW3   29   0.224   0.129   0.365
>     6HO5    HW4   30   0.224   0.129   0.365
>     7HO5    HW1   31   0.224   0.387   0.178
>     7HO5    HW2   32   0.302   0.433   0.306
>     7HO5     OW   33   0.224   0.387   0.274
>     7HO5    HW3   34   0.224   0.387   0.274
>     7HO5    HW4   35   0.224   0.387   0.274
>     8HO5    HW1   36   0.000   0.517   0.461
>     8HO5    HW2   37   0.078   0.472   0.333
>     8HO5     OW   38   0.000   0.517   0.365
>     8HO5    HW3   39   0.000   0.517   0.365
>     8HO5    HW4   40   0.000   0.517   0.365
>    0.44744   0.77499   0.73067
> 
> Is that a known error? What can I do
> 

This is the expected behavior, given the description in the manual (section 
5.6.2, page 103):

10 three water “hydrogens”
two hydrogens are generated around atom i according to SPC [57] water geometry.
The symmetry axis will alternate between three coordinate axes in both 
directions. In addition an extra particle is generated on the position of the 
oxygen. This is for use with four-atom water models such as TIP4P [79]

10 four water “hydrogens”
Same as above, except that two additional particles are generated on the 
position of the oxygen. This is for use with five-atom water models such as TIP5P 
[85]

The second entry should be addition type 11, not 10, I believe.

-Justin

> Best wishes,
> 
> Ilona
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Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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