[gmx-users] Lennard-Jones 9-6 potential problems

David van der Spoel spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Wed May 27 08:19:55 CEST 2009


zhangjianguo2002 wrote:
>  
>  
>    Firstly, thanks Berk and David van der Spoel for your replies. Maybe 
> I have not explain my problems clearly, there is only one type of 
> particle,namely one full-atom benzene molecule is replaced by one 
> coarse-grained benzene particle,so there in no non-bonded interactions 
> between different types and comb-rule may not work.
> in the [ defaults ] section of the ITP file, the defaults power for the 
> repulsion term is 12, if I change it to 9, is that enough  if I want to 
> use LJ-9-6 potential? is there still anything needed to be changed?
>  
That is not enough. Please read carefully our previous answers.

> Best regards!
> 
> 
>     >Hi,
>     >
>     >I forgot about this feature.
>     >Your problem is indeed that you used comb-rule=1,
>     >you have to use 2 or 3 to make this work.
>     >And indeed you should use user tables filled with the 9-6 potential.
>     >
>     >Gromacs could actually easily support p-6 tables with any value for p,
>     >by storing p in the tpr file and automatically using tables when p!=12.
>     >
>     >Berk
>     >
>     >> Date: Tue, 26 May 2009 09:45:22 +0200
>     >> From: spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se <mailto:spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se>
>     >> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org <mailto:gmx-users at gromacs.org>
>     >> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Lennard-Jones 9-6 potential problems
>     >> 
>     >> zhangjianguo2002 wrote:
>     >> > Hi everyone!
>     >> >   Have anyone used the Lennard-Jones 9-6 potential for  coarse-grained 
>     >> > models? when I use it, I get a very different result from  that is got 
>     >> > from the same Lennard-Jones 9-6 potential  formed a potential table,the 
>     >> > latter's results are comparable to the experiments. when I use LJ-9-6 
>     >> > potential,the ITP file  is as following:
>     >> >  
>     >> >   [ defaults ]
>     >> > ; nbfunc        comb-rule       gen-pairs       fudgeLJ fudgeQQ
>     >> >    1             1               no              1.0     1.0     9
>     >> 
>     >> Even if this may generate the correct parameters (please use gmxdump to 
>     >> check your tpr file) you still have to provide a user table to mdrun and 
>     >> to set vdw-type = user in your mdp file. You may need to change the 
>     >> nbfunc to three as well. Check source code in src/kernel/convparm to see 
>     >> what is going on.  I don't think this is documented anywhere, is it?
>     >> 
>     >> 
>     >> > 
>     >> > [ atomtypes ]
>     >> > ;   name  bond_type    mass    charge   ptype          sigma      epsilon
>     >> >  opls_001   Cx  6      78.0190    0            A    0.505        2.95;
>     >> > 
>     >> >  [ moleculetype ]
>     >> > ; Name nrexcl
>     >> > Phenyl      1
>     >> > [ atoms ]
>     >> > ;   nr      type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge     mass
>     >> >      1     opls_001     1  Phenyl     C1     1    0.000  78.0190 
>     >> > 
>     >> >  other files ,such as mdp file and top file ,are all the same as normal 
>     >> > LJ-12-6 potential, are these correct if I want to use LJ-9-6 potential? 
>     >> > Do I still need to change something? Thanks very much for your kindness!
>     >> > 
>     >> > 
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