[gmx-users] water molecule cannot be settled

Itamar Kass itamar.kass at gmail.com
Thu Oct 1 03:33:04 CEST 2009


Hi,

I found that in big system, when I work with pdb files I have to use  
gmxdump in order to find out which atom the number mean.

Itamar

On 01/10/2009, at 9:03 AM, Mark Abraham wrote:

> Carla Jamous wrote:
>> Hi,
>> what do you mean: "use gmxdump to trace the molecule"?
>> I'm a beginner with gromacs and all I found about gmxdump is that  
>> it reads a binary file & prints that to standard output in a  
>> readable format.
>> So how can I check if my atom number is the same in my pdb file &  
>> my output file?
>> Carla
>> On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 4:38 AM, Itamar Kass <itamar.kass at gmail.com  
>> <mailto:itamar.kass at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>    Hi,
>>    another point you should consider is that the atom/molecule number
>>    in the pdb or gro file are not necessarally the what you see in  
>> your
>>    output. You should use gmxdump in such cases to trace the  
>> molecule.
>
> Hmm? Why would the atom numbers not be accurate? Perhaps they might  
> be out by one if there's a counting-from-zero vs counting-from-one  
> mismatch, but surely nothing worse than that... And how would  
> gmxdump help?
>
> Mark
>
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>>    On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 1:14 AM, Manik Mayur  
>> <manik.mayur at gmail.com
>>    <mailto:manik.mayur at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>        2009/9/29 Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
>>        <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>
>>            Carla Jamous wrote:
>>                Thank you for your reply,
>>                but none of the water molecules with error messages is
>>                trapped inside my protein, nor is it in contact with  
>> the
>>                protein or the ions in my system.
>>        Also if the water molecules are positioned properly, you can  
>> try
>>        define = -DPOSRES_WATER in your .mdp file with a high value  
>> set
>>        in your topology(.top) file under [position restraint]  
>> section as,
>>        #ifdef POSRES_WATER
>>        ; Position restraint for each water oxygen
>>        [ position_restraints ]
>>        ;  i funct       fcx        fcy        fcz
>>           1    1       100000       100000       100000
>>        #endif
>>        -Manik
>>            Then you need to watch the trajectory and see where things
>>            go wrong.  In unstable systems, I often set "nstxout =  
>> 1" to
>>            capture as many frames in the .trr file as possible (if  
>> the
>>            crash is happening early, as it is in your case).
>>            Likely, energy minimization did not resolve all the bad
>>            contacts, but may still have converged within your  
>> criteria.
>>             You could also specify a lower target Fmax during EM to  
>> see
>>            if things resolve.
>>            -Justin
>>                Carla
>>                On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Tsjerk Wassenaar
>>                <tsjerkw at gmail.com <mailto:tsjerkw at gmail.com>
>>                <mailto:tsjerkw at gmail.com <mailto:tsjerkw at gmail.com>>>
>>                wrote:
>>                   Hi Carla,
>>                   You may have a water molecule trapped inside your
>>                protein. Check the
>>                   water molecule with the given atom number in a
>>                viewer, together with
>>                   your structure. If it is inside, you can try to
>>                remove it manually
>>                   from the system, editing the structure file and
>>                decreasing the amount
>>                   of solvent listed in te topology file. If you edit
>>                the .gro file, do
>>                   mind to decrease the number on the second line (the
>>                number of atoms)
>>                   by three.
>>                   Hope it helps,
>>                   Tsjerk
>>                   On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Carla Jamous
>>                   <carlajamous at gmail.com <mailto:carlajamous at gmail.com 
>> >
>>                <mailto:carlajamous at gmail.com
>>                <mailto:carlajamous at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>                    > Hi,
>>                    > I have a problem with water molecules in my
>>                system: I'm using
>>                   Gromacs with
>>                    > ffamber94 force-field. During minimization, I  
>> have
>>                this message:
>>                    >
>>                    > t = 0.014 ps: Water molecule starting at atom
>>                10045 can not be
>>                   settled.
>>                    > Check for bad contacts and/or reduce the
>>                timestep.Wrote pdb files
>>                   with
>>                    > previous and current coordinates
>>                    >
>>                    > The minimization converged. However, molecular
>>                dynamics were stopped.
>>                    > I tried minimization with different parameters:
>>                Flexible,
>>                    > position-restrained, reducing my timestep,  
>> etc...
>>                and nothing worked.
>>                    >
>>                    > I also tried one simulation with TIP3P water  
>> model
>>                and another
>>                   simulation
>>                    > with SPC water model and I still get the same  
>> error.
>>                    > I tried to access: oldwiki.gromacs.org
>>                <http://oldwiki.gromacs.org>
>>                   <http://oldwiki.gromacs.org> but access is denied.
>>                    >
>>                    > Please does anyone have a solution to propose?
>>                    >
>>                    > Thanks
>>                    > Carla
>>                    >
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