[gmx-users] nvt.gro

Pramod Akula ab.pramod at gmail.com
Thu Sep 24 13:06:56 CEST 2009


Dear Justin,

Thanks, will try the options described.

Ram

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> ram bio wrote:
>
>> Dear Justin,
>>
>> As suggested in the tutorial by you i applied the lipid position
>> restraints, while running the NVT  equillibration, but after the job is
>> finished, when i observed the nvt.gro file in VMD, still there is a gap
>> between the lipid bilayers but this time the gap is not so large as it was
>> in the earlier run (as discussed earlier in previous email).
>>
>> As I was already running the NPT equillibration(which I obtained after the
>> earlier NVT job, which ended in large gap between layers), i just wanted to
>> observe it and here there is no gap in between the layers i.e. in npt.gro.
>>
>> Please suggest me what to do to lower the gap after NVT equillibration
>> even after applying the lipid restraints and is it ok for my NPT
>> equillibration as there are no gaps between the layers after this NPT
>> equillibration.
>>
>>
> The gap arises because the lipids (when free to move) are attracted to the
> water above and below the bilayer.  If the protein is restrained, it doesn't
> move. The box size in NVT is fixed, so the system is trying to fill it.  It
> could be that your box was inappropriately assigned (too large), but maybe
> not.
>
> I am surprised that, even when using position restraints, the lipids still
> separated at all.  Did you use the lipid_posre.itp file that I provide on
> the tutorial site?  It has always worked well for me in such cases.  You
> could also try increasing the force constant in the z-dimension.
>
> The other option is to do NPT simulated annealing, as I also suggest in the
> troubleshooting page.  Using NPT allows the box to deform in response to the
> system, so you will probably get less weird behavior.  I have found that
> both NVT with PR and simulated annealing can get the job done.
>
> -Justin
>
>  Thanks
>>
>> Ram
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:25 PM, ram bio <rmbio861 at gmail.com <mailto:
>> rmbio861 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>    Dear Justin,
>>
>>    Thanks for the suggestion, will try to apply position restraints on
>>    lipid as mentioned in the advanced trouble shooting section.
>>
>>    Ram
>>
>>
>>    On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
>>    <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>        ram bio wrote:
>>
>>            Dear Gromacs Users,
>>
>>            I am following the justin tutorial on KALP-15 in lipid
>>            bilayer, I have a query regarding the nvt.gro that is after
>>            the NVT equillibration phase. The mdrun was proper without
>>            any warnings or errors, but when i visuallized the nvt.gro
>>            in VMD, i found that the peptide is intact in between the
>>            bilayers, but the the two layers got separated or else it is
>>            like the peptide bridging the the two halves of the lipid
>>            bilayer with gap in between the layers and also found few
>>            water molecules to the sides of the peptide or in the gap
>>            mentioned betwwn the layers.
>>
>>            Please let me know is the simulation going on normally or
>>            there is an defect or wrong going on, as the nvt
>>            equillibration was proper as i think i continued for the
>>            next equillibration that is npt for 1ns.
>>
>>
>>        You shouldn't continue blindly if you get weird results.  Please
>>        see the "Advanced Troubleshooting" page (part of the tutorial!),
>>        because I specifically address the issue of a bilayer separating:
>>
>>
>> http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin/gmx-tutorials/membrane_protein/advanced_troubleshooting.html
>>
>>        -Justin
>>
>>            Ram
>>
>>
>>
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