[gmx-users] Hydrogens missing during parameterization

Anirban Ghosh reach.anirban.ghosh at gmail.com
Wed Apr 14 12:28:35 CEST 2010


Hi XAvier,

Thanks for the reply. Actually I want to use this ligand with a protein and
run the complex using ffG43a2 force-field of GROMACS4.0.7. So is it correct
to leave away those 3 hydrogens HA, HB1 and HB2, which are not explicitly
described? Because in protein-ligand complexes, hydrogen bond formations
between the ligand and the protein are important? So should I continue with
this .itp file with 3 less hydrogens?
Thanks again.

Regards,

Anirban


On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:50 PM, XAvier Periole <x.periole at rug.nl> wrote:

>
> You have the proper itp file for the GROMOS FF. Some H are not explicitly
> described!
>
> On Apr 14, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:
>
> Hi, XAvier,
>
> Sorry for that mistake. Yes, exactly PRODRG is not giving the non-polar
> hydrogens. There I am using the GROMOS96.1 FF. So is there any way to get
> the proper .itp file? I mean any other online server like PRODRG? Or How can
> I derive the proper .itp file manually?
> Any suggestion is welcome. Thanks a lot for the prompt reply.
>
> Regards,
>
> Anirban
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 3:25 PM, XAvier Periole <x.periole at rug.nl> wrote:
>
>>
>> You are missing HB1 and HB2, not HB2 and HB3 :))
>>
>> This is due to the force field our are using. Gromos I presume: it
>> uses the united H idea: non-polar H are not explicitly modeled.
>>
>> you should be able to erase those from your gro file, but I would
>> suggest you get into some literature about the FF you use.
>>
>> XAvier.
>>
>>
>> On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:36 AM, Anirban Ghosh wrote:
>>
>>  Hi ALL,
>>>
>>> I have a ligand LDOPA with 25 atoms (including all hydrogens).:
>>>
>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> DAH COORDS
>>>   25
>>>    1DAH  O        1   5.988   5.216   9.128
>>>    1DAH  C        2   5.980   5.110   9.194
>>>    1DAH  OXT      3   5.951   4.985   9.139
>>>    1DAH  CA       4   6.001   5.107   9.349
>>>    1DAH  HA       5   5.935   5.027   9.384
>>>    1DAH  N        6   6.140   5.064   9.387
>>>    1DAH  H2       7   6.161   4.977   9.343
>>>    1DAH  H3       8   6.137   5.056   9.486
>>>    1DAH  H1       9   6.206   5.133   9.356
>>>    1DAH  CB      10   5.952   5.236   9.422
>>>    1DAH  HB1     11   5.985   5.320   9.362
>>>    1DAH  HB2     12   5.999   5.231   9.520
>>>    1DAH  CG      13   5.802   5.258   9.450
>>>    1DAH  CD2     14   5.761   5.333   9.565
>>>    1DAH  HD2     15   5.836   5.375   9.632
>>>    1DAH  CE2     16   5.623   5.353   9.592
>>>    1DAH  OE2     17   5.589   5.425   9.704
>>>    1DAH  HE2     18   5.672   5.454   9.752
>>>    1DAH  CZ      19   5.523   5.297   9.503
>>>    1DAH  OZ      20   5.387   5.314   9.525
>>>    1DAH  HZ      21   5.335   5.268   9.453
>>>    1DAH  CE1     22   5.564   5.223   9.389
>>>    1DAH  HE1     23   5.489   5.181   9.321
>>>    1DAH  CD1     24   5.701   5.203   9.362
>>>    1DAH  HD1     25   5.731   5.146   9.274
>>>   1.02033   1.02033   1.02033
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>  I derived the topology file from PRODRG server. However the .itp file is
>>> giving only 22 atoms definition and 3 of the hydrogen atoms are missing:
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> DAH      3
>>>
>>> [ atoms ]
>>> ;   nr      type  resnr resid  atom  cgnr   charge     mass
>>>     1        OM     1  DAH       O     1   -0.715  15.9994
>>>     2         C     1  DAH       C     1    0.387  12.0110
>>>     3        OM     1  DAH     OXT     1   -0.716  15.9994
>>>     4       CH1     1  DAH      CA     1    0.178  13.0190
>>>     5        NL     1  DAH       N     1    0.683  14.0067
>>>     6         H     1  DAH      H2     1    0.010   1.0080
>>>     7         H     1  DAH      H3     1    0.010   1.0080
>>>     8         H     1  DAH      H1     1    0.011   1.0080
>>>     9       CH2     1  DAH      CB     1    0.152  14.0270
>>>    10         C     1  DAH      CG     2   -0.020  12.0110
>>>    11       CR1     1  DAH     CD2     2    0.001  12.0110
>>>    12        HC     1  DAH     HD2     2    0.019   1.0080
>>>    13         C     1  DAH     CE2     3    0.130  12.0110
>>>    14        OA     1  DAH     OE2     3   -0.197  15.9994
>>>    15         H     1  DAH     HE2     3    0.051   1.0080
>>>    16         C     1  DAH      CZ     3    0.130  12.0110
>>>    17        OA     1  DAH      OZ     3   -0.197  15.9994
>>>    18         H     1  DAH      HZ     3    0.051   1.0080
>>>    19       CR1     1  DAH     CE1     3    0.001  12.0110
>>>    20        HC     1  DAH     HE1     3    0.031   1.0080
>>>    21       CR1     1  DAH     CD1     4    0.000  12.0110
>>>    22        HC     1  DAH     HD1     4    0.000   1.0080
>>>
>>> [ bonds ]
>>>
>>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> So you can see that HA, HB2 and HB3 hydrogens are missing here. So I am
>>> getting error messages popped by grompp commands. How can I get the
>>> definition of those missing 3 H atoms? Is it ok if I delete those 3 H atoms
>>> from my .gro file and proceed? If not then how to derive parameters for
>>> them? Any suggestion is welcome.
>>> Thanks a lot in advance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Anirban
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