[gmx-users] Re: Note on oscillation period / time step

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Thu Dec 2 20:05:30 CET 2010



Robin C. Underwood wrote:
>     Thanks for all the responses. After rechecking my top and manually inputting
> the [ ...types ] fields, the note remains. It is not clear to me whether I need
> to modify my top file or add some additional constraint (either in the top or
> mdp). Is it OK to have a bond oscillation period of this magnitude relative to
> my timestep? I've not seen this note in previous versions.
> 

Please see the manual, sections 1.2 and 6.5 in particular.  The note is 
relatively new, and an effort to caution users against potentially unstable 
settings.

-Justin

> 
> Robin
> 
> 
> Javier Cerezo wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> It looks like you're missing the bonded-interactions parameters.
>>
>> [ bonds ]
>> ;  ai    aj funct           *R0           Kb
>> *1    2       1          * X            X*
>> 1     3       1          * X            X*
>> 1     4       1          * X            X*
>> 1     5       1          * X            X*
>> 5     6       1          * X            X*
>>
>> (also angles...)
>>
>> Is it implicit somewhere? I don't know if it is automatic and if so,
>> from where the parameters are taken. If it is by using atoms names and
>> the ffbonded.itp from oplsaa, then atom name OA is missing in the itp file.
>>
>> I think that, according to the code (grompp.c), this note may arise if
>> the force constants are zero.
>>
> 
> Atom types are interpolated from ffbonded.itp and assigned.  If the problem were
> in the bonded parameters, a very different fatal error arises.  There is no
> problem here.
> 
> -Justin
> 
>> Javier
>>
>>
>> El 02/12/10 17:11, Robin C. Underwood escribió:
>>> GMX Users:
>>>
>>> When I run grompp on methanol in water in v. 4.5.3 I get the following Note:
>>>
>>> NOTE 1 [file methanol.top, line 73]:
>>>   The bond in molecule-type MET between atoms 5 OA and 6 HO has an
>>>   estimated oscillational period of 9.0e-03 ps, which is less than 10 times
>>>   the time step of 1.0e-03 ps.
>>>   Maybe you forgot to change the constraints mdp option.
>>>
>>> Here is my mdp file:
>>>
>>> ;    User Robin
>>> ;    Wed Dec.1 2010
>>> ;    Input file
>>> ;
>>> title               =  Yo
>>> cpp                 =  /lib/cpp
>>> integrator          =  md
>>> dt                  =  0.001 ; ps !
>>> nsteps              =  1100000       ; total 1000 ps=1 ns
>>> nstcomm             =  10
>>> ; (x) coordinates, (v) is velocities, (f) is forces
>>> ; This affects "traj.trr"
>>> ; these numbers shouldn't be too small (100,000), takes up disk space
>>> nstxout             =  1000
>>> nstvout             =  1000
>>> nstfout             =  1000
>>> ; Output frequency for energies
>>> nstlog              =  100
>>> nstenergy           =  100
>>> ; This affects ".xtc" file for movies this should be a fairly small number
>>> nstxtcout           =  100
>>> xtc-precision       =  1000
>>> ; parameters for neighbors
>>> nstlist             =  10
>>> ns_type             =  grid
>>> rlist               =  0.9
>>> ; electrostatics
>>> coulombtype      =  pme
>>> pme_order        =  4
>>> ewald_rtol       =  1e-5
>>> ewald_geometry      =  3d
>>> epsilon_surface     =  0
>>> fourierspacing           =  0.1
>>> fourier_nx          =  0.0
>>> fourier_ny          =  0.0
>>> fourier_nz          =  0.0
>>> rcoulomb            =  0.9
>>> optimize_fft        =  yes
>>> Dispcorr         =  EnerPres
>>> vdwtype                  =  cutoff
>>> rvdw_switch      =  0.85
>>> rvdw                =  0.9
>>> ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
>>> Tcoupl              =  v_rescale
>>> tc-grps                  =  system
>>> tau_t               =  0.1
>>> ref_t               =  300
>>> ; Energy monitoring
>>> energygrps          =  MET  SOL
>>> ; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
>>> Pcoupl              =  berendsen
>>> Pcoupltype          = isotropic
>>> tau_p               =  0.5
>>> compressibility     =  4.5e-5
>>> ref_p               =  1.0
>>> ; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
>>> gen_vel             =  no
>>> gen_temp            =  300.0
>>> gen_seed            =  173529
>>>
>>>
>>> Here is my top file:
>>>
>>> ;
>>> ;
>>> ; Include forcefield parameters
>>> #include "ffoplsaa.itp"
>>>
>>> ;
>>> ; Methanol, Jorgensen et al. JACS 118 pp. 11225 (1996)
>>> ;
>>> [ moleculetype ]
>>> ; name  nrexcl
>>> MET  3
>>>
>>> [ atoms ]
>>> ;   nr    type   resnr  residu    atom    cgnr        charge          mass
>>>      1       opls_157       1     MET        C       1       0.145
>>>      2       opls_156       1     MET        H       1       0.04
>>>      3       opls_156       1     MET        H       1       0.04
>>>      4       opls_156       1     MET        H       1       0.04
>>>      5       opls_154       1     MET       OA       1       -0.683
>>>      6       opls_155       1     MET       HO       1       0.418
>>>
>>> [ bonds ]
>>> ;  ai    aj funct           c0           c1
>>> 1    2       1
>>> 1    3       1
>>> 1    4       1
>>> 1    5       1
>>> 5    6       1
>>>
>>> [ pairs ]
>>> ; i  j       funct
>>> 2    6
>>> 3    6
>>> 4    6
>>>
>>> [ angles ]
>>> ;  ai    aj    ak funct           c0        c1
>>> ; H3
>>>  2   1       5       1
>>>  3   1       5       1
>>>  4   1       5       1
>>>  4      1       3    1
>>>  4   1       2       1
>>>
>>>
>>> [ system ]
>>> ; Name
>>> MET in water
>>>
>>> [ molecules ]
>>> ; Compound        #mols
>>> MET               1
>>> SOL          503
>>>
>>>
>>> Do I need to add some sort of constraint on my methanol molecule?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Robin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Javier CEREZO BASTIDA
>> Estudiante de Doctorado
>> ---------------------
>> Dpto. Química-Física
>> Universidad de Murcia
>> 30100 MURCIA (España)
>> Tlf.(+34)868887434
>>
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>     Justin A. Lemkul
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>     ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>     MILES-IGERT Trainee
>     Department of Biochemistry
>     Virginia Tech
>     Blacksburg, VA
>     jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
>     http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
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Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

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