[gmx-users] Re: Help - LINCS WARNING: bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Mon Dec 6 13:31:08 CET 2010


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YUVRAJ UBOVEJA wrote:
> Hello Sir
> 
> Good Morning
> 
> I am working on 1CRL.pdb (lipase with open lid). It had NAG which was 
> removed from the pdb.
> I am using gromacs 4.5.3. I am posting all my steps here and all 
> necessary .mdp files are attached.
> 
> 1. pdb2gmx  (forcefield used amber99sb-ildn with tip3p model)
>  
> 2) editconf -bt dodecahedron -f 1.gro -c -d 1.0
> 
> 3) genbox -cp 1CRL_step2.pdb -cs tip4p.gro -o 1CRL_b4em.pdb -p topol.top
> 
> 4) grompp -f em.mdp -c 1CRL_b4em.pdb -p 1CRL_top1.top -o 1CRL_em.tpr
> 
> 5) genion -p -s 1CRL_em.tpr -o 1CRL_ion.pdb -pname NA+ -np 17 -g 
> 1CRL_ion.log     
> 
> 6) grompp -f em.mdp -c 1CRL_ion.pdb -p topol.top -o 1CRL_em.tpr    
> 
> 7) mdrun -s 1CRL_em.tpr -o 1CRL_em.trr -c 1CRL_b4pr.pdb -g em.log -e em.edr
> 
> 8) grompp -f pr.mdp -c 1CRL_b4pr.pdb -r 1CRL_b4pr.pdb -p topol.top -o 
> 1CRL_pr.tpr
> 
> 9) mdrun -s 1CRL_pr.tpr -o 1CRL_pr.trr -c 1CRL_b4md.pdb -g pr.log -e pr.edr
> 
> It is giving Error as follows:
> *
> Step 7, time 0.014 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000039, max 0.000512 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   31.8    0.1010   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 8, time 0.016 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000018, max 0.000869 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   33.9    0.1009   0.1011      0.1010
> 
> Step 32, time 0.064 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000035, max 0.001516 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   34.2    0.1010   0.1008      0.1010
> 
> Step 33, time 0.066 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000041, max 0.001609 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   32.7    0.1008   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 39, time 0.078 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000038, max 0.001576 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   34.5    0.1010   0.1011      0.1010
> 
> Step 40, time 0.08 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000049, max 0.002593 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   34.3    0.1011   0.1013      0.1010
> 
> Step 41, time 0.082 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000025, max 0.000573 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   31.5    0.1013   0.1011      0.1010
> 
> Step 42, time 0.084 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000037, max 0.001815 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   34.7    0.1011   0.1008      0.1010
> 
> Step 43, time 0.086 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000033, max 0.001302 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   32.2    0.1008   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 51, time 0.102 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000036, max 0.001418 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   30.5    0.1012   0.1010      0.1010
> 
> Step 55, time 0.11 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000048, max 0.002660 (between atoms 4571 and 4573)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    4571   4572   36.5    0.1010   0.1010      0.1010
> 
> Step 56, time 0.112 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000042, max 0.002092 (between atoms 4571 and 4573)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    4571   4572   36.4    0.1010   0.1010      0.1010
> 
> Step 57, time 0.114 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000028, max 0.000763 (between atoms 4571 and 4573)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    4571   4572   31.8    0.1010   0.1010      0.1010
> 
> Step 63, time 0.126 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000027, max 0.000427 (between atoms 4571 and 4572)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    4571   4573   32.7    0.1011   0.1010      0.1010
> 
> Step 64, time 0.128 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000068, max 0.003175 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
> 
> Step 64, time 0.128 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000040, max 0.001591 (between atoms 4571 and 4573)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   35.2    0.1010   0.1012      0.1010
>    4571   4573   37.2    0.1010   0.1008      0.1010
> 
> Step 65, time 0.13 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000049, max 0.002173 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
> 
> Step 65, time 0.13 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000027, max 0.000553 (between atoms 4571 and 4573)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   35.0    0.1012   0.1011      0.1010
>    4571   4573   31.0    0.1008   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 66, time 0.132 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000038, max 0.001188 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   35.6    0.1011   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 67, time 0.134 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000050, max 0.002202 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5127   31.4    0.1009   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 71, time 0.142 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000041, max 0.001740 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   34.6    0.1010   0.1012      0.1010
> 
> Step 72, time 0.144 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000033, max 0.000836 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   34.2    0.1012   0.1011      0.1010
> 
> Step 73, time 0.146 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000040, max 0.001326 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   38.5    0.1011   0.1009      0.1010
> 
> Step 74, time 0.148 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000028, max 0.000900 (between atoms 5125 and 5127)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   32.6    0.1009   0.1010      0.1010
> ^C
> 
> Received the INT signal, stopping at the next NS step
> 
> 
> Step 80, time 0.16 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000039, max 0.001703 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   30.8    0.1010   0.1012      0.1010
> 
> Step 81, time 0.162 (ps)  LINCS WARNING
> relative constraint deviation after LINCS:
> rms 0.000045, max 0.002178 (between atoms 5125 and 5126)
> bonds that rotated more than 30 degrees:
>  atom 1 atom 2  angle  previous, current, constraint length
>    5125   5126   30.8    0.1012   0.1012      0.101*0
> 
> 
> Kindly give me a solution.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Yuvraj Uboveja
> M. Tech Bioinformatics
> CCNSB, IIIT-H
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 5:25 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     YUVRAJ UBOVEJA wrote:
> 
>         Dear Dr. Lemkul
> 
>         I was following your tutorial on lysozyme in water. In which you
>         have suggested to remove crystal water from the PDB file. As I
>         am an amateur in simulations, just started with GROMACS
>         Please find some time to answer my queries which could be very
>         silly in nature.
> 
>         Why do we want to delete crystal water?
> 
> 
>     I did this for ease of understanding.  In previous Gromacs versions,
>     crystal waters and those added later showed up as separate "SOL"
>     blocks in the topology, which was not always easy to understand.
> 
> 
>         How do we come to know whether crystal water is required for our
>         simulation or not.
> 
> 
>     If these water molecules serve a functional role, do not remove
>     them.  The paper that discusses the structure should have this
>     information.  Most of the time, crystal waters are unimportant.
> 
> 
>         What is difference between crystal water already present in PDB
>         and water moleclues we add in solvation step. Is there any
>         functional difference wrt to simulation.
> 
> 
>     A crystal water comes from solvent conditions used during x-ray
>     diffraction. Anything else is added.  Functional roles are
>     determined experimentally (see above comment).
> 
> 
>         One more thing how do we decide whether to use OPLS / AMBER
>         force field for our system (in my case it is lipase 1TRH). I got
>         to know that OPLS parameter have been created taking explicitly
>         solvent molecule in consideration. So in my view OPLS is more
>         better for solvating a protein for any solvent simulations.
> 
> 
>     I don't know how you came to this conclusions.  Any of the force
>     fields provided in Gromacs are quite suitable to protein
>     simulations.  They are all based on different quantum mechanical or
>     thermodynamic assumptions.  You should spend some (significant) time
>     reading about each of the force fields and what they assume, and any
>     limitations they might have.
> 
>     -Justin
> 
> 
>         Thanks in anticipation.
> 
>         Best Regards
> 
> 
>     -- 
>     ========================================
> 
>     Justin A. Lemkul
>     Ph.D. Candidate
>     ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>     MILES-IGERT Trainee
>     Department of Biochemistry
>     Virginia Tech
>     Blacksburg, VA
>     jalemkul[at]vt.edu <http://vt.edu> | (540) 231-9080
>     http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin
> 
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> 
> 

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Justin A. Lemkul
Ph.D. Candidate
ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
jalemkul[at]vt.edu | (540) 231-9080
http://www.bevanlab.biochem.vt.edu/Pages/Personal/justin

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