[gmx-users] Density Differences

Kavyashree M hmkvsri at gmail.com
Wed Apr 13 14:57:11 CEST 2011


Ok Thanks.

On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:22 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Kavyashree M wrote:
>
>> The original paper (J. Chern. Phys., Vol. 79, No.2, 15 July 1983)
>> stated a density of 0.999g/cc at 298K and 1atm, which is nowhere
>> close to the value i have got. (1.025g/cc). or is this value tolerable?
>>
>>
> That's a 2.6% difference.  I wouldn't call that "nowhere close."  Unless
> you are literally reproducing the exact same system used during
> parameterization (which you're not, based on your system contents and the
> use of algorithms like PME that didn't exist in 1983) then you shouldn't
> necessarily expect identical results.
>
> -Justin
>
>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Kavyashree M wrote:
>>
>>        I am sorry I did not include it in the mail: i used the following:
>>
>>        pcoupl                  = Parrinello_Rahman    pcoupltype
>>           = isotropic            tau_p                   = 2.0
>>           compressibility         = 4.5e-5        ref_p
>>      = 1.0                          I agree that density of water is
>> different  depending on the
>>        model used,
>>        so for tip4p water what is the range of fluctuations accepted?
>>        So that
>>        we can conclude that the difference is not due to any other
>>        reason but
>>        the water model used.
>>
>>
>>    The extent of fluctuation in any pressure-related term depends on
>>    the size of your system and several of the .mdp settings.
>>
>>    http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure
>>
>>    For the actual target value of TIP4P density, refer to the
>>    literature.  The TIP4P citation is provided in the Gromacs manual.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>        Thanking you
>>        With regards
>>        Kavya
>>
>>        On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>        <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>        <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>           Kavyashree M wrote:
>>
>>               Dear gromacs users,
>>                I am trying to simulate a 225aa protein at 300K in water,
>>               with OPLSAA force filed, tip4p water model, using the
>>               parameters below (for pressure equilibration) during
>>
>>
>>           You're not doing NPT.  You haven't specified pcoupl or any of
>> the
>>           other relevant parameters, so you're doing NVT.
>>
>>
>>               position restrained md.
>>
>>               integrator              = md                  dt
>>                        = 0.002                nsteps
>> = 50000                  nstcomm                 = 10
>>  nstlist                        = 5                         ns_type
>>         = grid                  pbc                            = xyz
>>     rlist                          = 1.40
>>               coulombtype             = PME  rcoulomb                =
>>        1.40            vdwtype                 = Switch
>>  rvdw_switch                    = 0.9              rvdw
>>       = 1.00                        fourierspacing          =
>>        0.12              pme_order                      = 4
>>           ewald_rtol              = 1e-5
>> optimize_fft            = yes Tcoupl                         =
>>        nose-hoover       tc_grps                 = Protein  Non-Protein
>>               tau_t                   = 0.4      0.4         ref_t
>>                         = 300      300        nh-chain-length
>>  = 1            gen_vel                 = no     continuation
>>     = yes          constraints             = all-bonds
>>               constraint-algorithm    = LINCS
>>               lincs-order             = 4            lincs-iter
>>           =
>>               1               lincs-warnangle         = 30
>>               when I calculate the densities, the average came out to be
>>               1025.91 kg/m^3,
>>               Could anyone please clarify me the reason for this density.
>>
>>
>>           Simulating with the right ensemble (NPT) will equilibrate the
>>           pressure and thus density.  As a fundamental point, please also
>>           realize that each water model has its own (different) expected
>>           density value, which is also influenced somewhat by the
>> remaining
>>           contents of the system.  Therefore, the result you obtain may
>>        not be
>>           in exact agreement with experimental bulk density of water.
>>
>>           -Justin
>>
>>
>>               Thanking you
>>               With regards
>>               Kavya
>>
>>
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