[gmx-users] NPT issue in 4.0.7 and 4.5.3

Mark Abraham Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au
Thu Apr 14 08:11:07 CEST 2011


On 14/04/2011 3:40 PM, Moeed wrote:
>
>
> On 13 April 2011 18:45, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au 
> <mailto:Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>> wrote:
>
>     On 14/04/2011 10:22 AM, Moeed wrote:
>>     Hello,
>>
>>     I have run 2 ns simulations on a hydrocarbon system (initial
>>     density of ~ 2 SI and box size is 15 nm), one with version 4.0.7
>>     and the other trial using 4.5.3. Both runs are almost
>>     equilibrated to 70 bar pressure but one is giving density of
>>     above 600SI (4.0.7) and the other density of around 15 SI
>>     (4.5.3). With 4.5.3 applying 100 bar pressure does not comrades
>>     the system either to the desired density. I need to study the
>>     system at different pressures from 1 to 70 bar, and I am
>>     wondering if the system can not be compressed with these ref_p
>>     values how can I keep the pressure fixed at P < 70 bar!?
>>
>>     Please help if you have any idea on why these two versions are
>>     giving inconsistent results and which one is reliable.
>
>     Why are your potential energies positive? What does the final
>     configuration look like? Why aren't you doing a "simulated
>     annealing" style of compression with small increments of delta-P?
>     (These, coincidentally are even good data for your study...)
>     Massive leaps in ensemble conditions are often poorly-conditioned
>     for numerical integration. You're generating velocities that are
>     only approximately correct, not giving them any chance to
>     equilibrate, and then smashing the system with massive
>     over-pressure. Small wonder it might sometimes break...
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> You mean I should get negative potential? I am sure topology is 
> generated properly. can you explain why this is concerning?

What does a set of charges with positive potential energy want to do?

> Can you please elaborate on compressing using simulated annealing? How 
> can I do this?

That's not what I said - I used quotation marks and the word "style" for 
a reason. I told you not to do massive changes of conditions, and to use 
small increments of delta-P. Equilibrate at one P, change it a bit. 
Repeat. This is like simulated annealing, but with P instead of T.

Mark

> Thanks, :)
>
>
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>
>     Mark
>
>
>>
>>     4.0.7
>>
>>     Statistics over 250001 steps [*1500.0001 thru 2000.0001 ps ],* 14
>>     data sets
>>     The term 'Cons. rmsd ()' is averaged over 2501 frames
>>     All other averages are exact over 250001 steps
>>
>>     Energy                      Average       RMSD     Fluct.     
>>     Drift  Tot-Drift
>>     -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     Angle                       36.9945   0.806738   0.804483 
>>     0.0521993   0.208798
>>     Ryckaert-Bell.              9.04227   0.376253   0.371412 
>>     0.0521057   0.208424
>>     LJ-14                       5.23048   0.119612   0.119611
>>     0.00033983 0.00135933
>>     Coulomb-14                 -1.66329   0.104171   0.102175 
>>     0.0175753  0.0703015
>>     LJ (SR)                    -27.3967          0          0 
>>     0.0421934   0.168774
>>     Coulomb (SR)                8.98711   0.163579    0.16062
>>     -0.0268199   -0.10728
>>     Potential                   31.1944          0          0  
>>     0.137594   0.550377
>>     Kinetic En.                 51.1009   0.987759   0.987724
>>     0.00725949  0.0290381
>>     Total Energy                82.2953          0          0  
>>     0.144851   0.579408
>>     Temperature                  299.98    5.79849    5.79828
>>     0.000340897   0.170449
>>     *Pressure (bar)              69.3587    414.279    414.256 
>>     0.0298385    14.9193*
>>     Cons. rmsd ()            4.01744e-06 1.41883e-07
>>     1.41883e-07          0          0
>>     *Box-X                       3.04882          0          0
>>     3.57512e-06 0.00178757
>>     Box-Y                       3.04882          0          0 3.57512e-*
>>
>>
>>     -----------------------------
>>     4.5.3.
>>
>>     [*1500.0001 thru 2000.0001 ps ],*
>>
>>     Energy                      Average   Err.Est.       RMSD  Tot-Drift
>>     -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>     Angle                       37.1357      0.071   0.812307 
>>     -0.099711  (kJ/mol)
>>     Ryckaert-Bell.              9.17677       0.14   0.445934 
>>     -0.529281  (kJ/mol)
>>     LJ-14                       5.18878     0.0087   0.137673  
>>     -0.03119  (kJ/mol)
>>     Coulomb-14                 -1.60372      0.051   0.126405 
>>     -0.144403  (kJ/mol)
>>     LJ (SR)                    -4.24478       0.29   0.742141  
>>     0.697187  (kJ/mol)
>>     Coulomb (SR)                8.97451      0.082   0.198278  
>>     0.232025  (kJ/mol)
>>     Potential                   54.6272       0.31    1.20733  
>>     0.124627  (kJ/mol)
>>     Kinetic En.                 51.1047      0.021     0.9945 
>>     -0.066306  (kJ/mol)
>>     Total Energy                105.732       0.31    1.58869  
>>     0.058321  (kJ/mol)
>>     Temperature                 300.002       0.12    5.83806 
>>     -0.389239  (K)
>>     *Pressure                     66.734        5.3      91.83   
>>     11.5294  (bar)*
>>     Constr. rmsd             2.2661e-10    2.3e-10 3.58302e-08
>>     -1.3595e-09  ()
>>     *Box-X                       11.0055      0.082   0.175309 
>>     -0.496198  (nm)
>>     Box-Y                       11.0055      0.082   0.175309 
>>     -0.496198  (nm)*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     pbc              =  xyz
>>
>>     integrator          =  md
>>     dt                  =  0.002
>>     nsteps              =  1000000
>>     nstcomm             =  100
>>     nstenergy           =  100
>>     nstxout             =  100
>>
>>     nstlist             =  10
>>     ns_type             =  grid
>>
>>     coulombtype         =  Shift
>>     vdw-type            =  Shift
>>     rcoulomb-switch     =  0
>>     rvdw-switch         =  0.9
>>     rlist               =  1.2
>>     rcoulomb            =  1.2
>>     rvdw                =  1.0
>>
>>     Tcoupl              =  v-rescale
>>     tc-grps             =  System
>>     tau_t               =  0.1
>>     ref_t               =  300
>>
>>
>>     Pcoupl              =  berendsen
>>     Pcoupltype          =  isotropic
>>     tau_p               =  1
>>     compressibility     =  4.5e-5 4.5e-5
>>     ref_p               =  70
>>
>>
>>     gen_vel             =  yes
>>     gen_temp            =  300.0
>>     gen_seed            =  173529
>>
>>
>>     constraints             = all-bonds
>>     constraint-algorithm = lincs
>>
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