[gmx-users] NPT issue in 4.0.7 and 4.5.3

Moeed lecielll at googlemail.com
Thu Apr 14 21:55:02 CEST 2011


On 14 April 2011 02:11, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au> wrote:

>  On 14/04/2011 3:40 PM, Moeed wrote:
>
>
>
> On 13 April 2011 18:45, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au> wrote:
>
>>  On 14/04/2011 10:22 AM, Moeed wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I have run 2 ns simulations on a hydrocarbon system (initial density of ~
>> 2 SI and box size is 15 nm), one with version 4.0.7 and the other trial
>> using 4.5.3. Both runs are almost equilibrated to 70 bar pressure but one is
>> giving density of above 600SI (4.0.7) and the other density of around 15 SI
>> (4.5.3). With 4.5.3 applying 100 bar pressure does not comrades the system
>> either to the desired density. I need to study the system at different
>> pressures from 1 to 70 bar, and I am wondering if the system can not be
>> compressed with these ref_p values how can I keep the pressure fixed at P <
>> 70 bar!?
>>
>> Please help if you have any idea on why these two versions are giving
>> inconsistent results and which one is reliable.
>>
>>
>>  Why are your potential energies positive? What does the final
>> configuration look like? Why aren't you doing a "simulated annealing" style
>> of compression with small increments of delta-P? (These, coincidentally are
>> even good data for your study...) Massive leaps in ensemble conditions are
>> often poorly-conditioned for numerical integration. You're generating
>> velocities that are only approximately correct, not giving them any chance
>> to equilibrate, and then smashing the system with massive over-pressure.
>> Small wonder it might sometimes break...
>>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> You mean I should get negative potential? I am sure topology is generated
> properly. can you explain why this is concerning?
>
>
> What does a set of charges with positive potential energy want to do?
>
>
>   Can you please elaborate on compressing using simulated annealing? How
> can I do this?
>
>
> That's not what I said - I used quotation marks and the word "style" for a
> reason. I told you not to do massive changes of conditions, and to use small
> increments of delta-P. Equilibrate at one P, change it a bit. Repeat. This
> is like simulated annealing, but with P instead of T.
>

Dear Mark,

I see now what you mean. But actually my problem is not equilibrating..I can
follow your advise and equilibrate the system but as I said starting from
the same structure and settings, both runs one with 4.0.7 and the other
4.5.3, show that system is pretty close to ref_p = 70 but densities are
terrible different. What I dont realize is that how to judge which version
is giving correct density. and also version 4.5.3 does not compress with any
pressure below 100 bar. So even when I compress using 4.0.7, and try to use
output structure from 4.0.7 as input for 4.5.3 to apply say ref_p of 70, my
box expands again.

I am stuck on this and it seems the only option is to just stick to version
4.0.7!

:)

>
> Mark
>
>
>  Thanks, :)
>
>
>
>>
>> When reporting output from .log file and g_energy, please either use plain
>> text email, or switch to a non-proportional font like Courier. Those tables
>> make it harder for people to help you than you want it to be.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>>
>>
>> 4.0.7
>>
>> Statistics over 250001 steps [* 1500.0001 thru 2000.0001 ps ],* 14 data
>> sets
>> The term 'Cons. rmsd ()' is averaged over 2501 frames
>> All other averages are exact over 250001 steps
>>
>> Energy                      Average       RMSD     Fluct.      Drift
>> Tot-Drift
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Angle                       36.9945   0.806738   0.804483  0.0521993
>> 0.208798
>> Ryckaert-Bell.              9.04227   0.376253   0.371412  0.0521057
>> 0.208424
>> LJ-14                       5.23048   0.119612   0.119611 0.00033983
>> 0.00135933
>> Coulomb-14                 -1.66329   0.104171   0.102175  0.0175753
>> 0.0703015
>> LJ (SR)                    -27.3967          0          0  0.0421934
>> 0.168774
>> Coulomb (SR)                8.98711   0.163579    0.16062 -0.0268199
>> -0.10728
>> Potential                   31.1944          0          0   0.137594
>> 0.550377
>> Kinetic En.                 51.1009   0.987759   0.987724 0.00725949
>> 0.0290381
>> Total Energy                82.2953          0          0   0.144851
>> 0.579408
>> Temperature                  299.98    5.79849    5.79828 0.000340897
>> 0.170449
>> *Pressure (bar)              69.3587    414.279    414.256  0.0298385
>> 14.9193*
>> Cons. rmsd ()            4.01744e-06 1.41883e-07 1.41883e-07
>> 0          0
>> *Box-X                       3.04882          0          0 3.57512e-06
>> 0.00178757
>> Box-Y                       3.04882          0          0 3.57512e-*
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> 4.5.3.
>>
>> [* 1500.0001 thru 2000.0001 ps ],*
>>
>> Energy                      Average   Err.Est.       RMSD  Tot-Drift
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Angle                       37.1357      0.071   0.812307  -0.099711
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Ryckaert-Bell.              9.17677       0.14   0.445934  -0.529281
>> (kJ/mol)
>> LJ-14                       5.18878     0.0087   0.137673   -0.03119
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Coulomb-14                 -1.60372      0.051   0.126405  -0.144403
>> (kJ/mol)
>> LJ (SR)                    -4.24478       0.29   0.742141   0.697187
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Coulomb (SR)                8.97451      0.082   0.198278   0.232025
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Potential                   54.6272       0.31    1.20733   0.124627
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Kinetic En.                 51.1047      0.021     0.9945  -0.066306
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Total Energy                105.732       0.31    1.58869   0.058321
>> (kJ/mol)
>> Temperature                 300.002       0.12    5.83806  -0.389239  (K)
>> *Pressure                     66.734        5.3      91.83    11.5294
>> (bar)*
>> Constr. rmsd             2.2661e-10    2.3e-10 3.58302e-08 -1.3595e-09  ()
>> *Box-X                       11.0055      0.082   0.175309  -0.496198
>> (nm)
>> Box-Y                       11.0055      0.082   0.175309  -0.496198  (nm)
>> *
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> pbc              =  xyz
>>
>> integrator          =  md
>> dt                  =  0.002
>> nsteps              =  1000000
>> nstcomm             =  100
>> nstenergy           =  100
>> nstxout             =  100
>>
>> nstlist             =  10
>> ns_type             =  grid
>>
>> coulombtype         =  Shift
>> vdw-type            =  Shift
>> rcoulomb-switch     =  0
>> rvdw-switch         =  0.9
>> rlist               =  1.2
>> rcoulomb            =  1.2
>> rvdw                =  1.0
>>
>> Tcoupl              =  v-rescale
>> tc-grps             =  System
>> tau_t               =  0.1
>> ref_t               =  300
>>
>>
>> Pcoupl              =  berendsen
>> Pcoupltype          =  isotropic
>> tau_p               =  1
>> compressibility     =  4.5e-5 4.5e-5
>> ref_p               =  70
>>
>>
>> gen_vel             =  yes
>> gen_temp            =  300.0
>> gen_seed            =  173529
>>
>>
>> constraints             = all-bonds
>> constraint-algorithm = lincs
>>
>>
>>
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