[gmx-users] aminoacids.n.tdb

Emine Deniz Tekin edeniztekin at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 22:55:44 CEST 2011


Hi Mark,

Thanks again. Your suggestion of introducing the lauroic acid as a
pseudo-amino acid seems to solve my problem. Below is my corrected
"aminoacids.rtp" file for the 6-Carbon case as a test. (I used the Berger
lipid parameters.) Just to be sure, could you have a look at the file (I
used gb_10 between C and +N instead of gb_19).


[ DPP ]

 [ atoms ]

   CA   LP2    0.00000   0

   CB   LP2    0.00000   1

   CG   LP2    0.00000   2

   CD   LP2    0.00000   3

   CE   LP3    0.00000   4

    C    LC      0.450       5

    O    LO     -0.450      5

 [ bonds ]

   CA    CB     1       0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06

   C     CA      1       0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06

   CB    CG     1      0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06

   CG    CD     1      0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06

   CD    CE     1       0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06

    C     O       1       0.12300E+00 0.50210E+06

    C    +N          gb_10

[ angles ]

   C     CA    CB      1      0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03

   CA    CB    CG     1      0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03

   CB    CG    CD     1      0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03

   CG    CD    CE     1      0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03

   O      C    CA       1      0.12100E+03 0.50210E+03

   CA     C    +N     ga_19

    O     C    +N     ga_33

[ dihedrals ]

    C    CA    CB    CG       1    0.0     5.86    3

     CA    CB    CG    CD     3

   CB    CG    CD    CE       3

 [ impropers ]

    C    CA    +N     O    gi_1

Best regards,

Deniz

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>wrote:

>  On 12/04/2011 10:30 PM, Emine Deniz Tekin wrote:
>
>
> Hi Mark,
>
>
> Thank you for your reply. But, I couldn’t understand very well what you
> meant “you can make one that uses backbone-style linking. Most of the
> forcefields will have examples of non-amino-acid terminating residues -
> these make a single peptide bond just like yours does.”. So, let me
> explain the problem a little more.  I would be happy if you could expound
> upon your reply.
>
>
>  *1)*      I prepared the *rtp *entry for the lauroic acid (see below) and
> add the lipid parameters to the relevant sections of the *ffnonbonded.itp*and
> *ffbonded.itp* files.
>
>
> That is not an .rtp entry, see below. Look at some .rtp entries and see how
> they make backbone bonds. That is what I understand you want to do - make a
> peptide bond as if lauroic acid was an amino acid.
>
>
>  *2)*      I added the lauroic acid as a "Non-Protein” in the *
> residuetypes.dat *file and also I introduced the atom types (LO: 15.9994,
> LC: 12.0110, LP2: 14.0270, LP3: 15.0350) in the *atomtypes.atp.*
>
> *3)      *I concatenated the structure files of a 8-residue-peptide* *and
> lauroic acid as *system.gro. *Then, using “pdb2gmx -ter”, I obtained the *topol.top,
> conf.gro* and *posre.itp* for *the whole system.* (I chose : start
> terminus VAL-2: NH2 and end terminus ASP-9: COO-)
>
> *4)*   But when I looked into *conf.gro* with the VMD, I see that the
> peptide bond is formed between the
>
>
> No bond shown by VMD is relevant. It's guessing based on the coordinates in
> your .gro file. Your bonded atoms are in your .top file. VMD knows nothing
> about your .top file.
>
>
>  lauroic acid (C34) and the N terminal of the Valine. However, second H of
> the N is still there and it is making another bond with C34 of lauroic acid.
> The strange thing is: C34 is double bonded to O35, Carbon makes four
> bonds.
>
> How can I get rid of that H?
>
> [ DPP ]
>
>
> This is not an .rtp entry. The [bonds] section must refer to atom names. I
> can only suppose pdb2gmx is warning about or ignoring everything after your
> [atoms] section.
>
> Look in the .rtp and chapter 5 of the manual how terminating
> pseudo-residues like ACE work. Do something analogous for lauroic acid.
>
> Mark
>
>
>   [ atoms ]
>
>    C34       LC     0.800    18
>
>    O35       LO    -0.60     18
>
>    C36      LP2      0       19
>
>    C37      LP2      0       20
>
>    C38      LP2      0       21
>
>    C39      LP2      0       22
>
>    C40      LP2      0       23
>
>    C41      LP2      0       24
>
>    C42      LP2      0       25
>
>    C43      LP2      0       26
>
>    C44      LP2      0       27
>
>    C45      LP2      0       28
>
>    C46      LP3      0       29
>
> [ bonds ]
>
> ;  ai    aj funct
>
>       34      35       1 0.12300E+00 0.50210E+06
>
>       34      36       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       36      37       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       37      38       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       38      39       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       39      40       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       40      41       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       41      42       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       42      43       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       43      44       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       44      45       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
>       45      46       1 0.15300E+00 0.33470E+06
>
> [ angles ]
>
> ;  ai    aj    ak funct
>
>       34      36      37       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       35      34      36       1 0.12100E+03 0.50210E+03
>
>       36      37      38       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       37      38      39       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       38      39      40       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       39      40      41       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       40      41      42       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       41      42      43       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       42      43      44       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       43      44      45       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
>       44      45      46       1 0.11100E+03 0.46020E+03
>
> [ dihedrals ]
>
> ;  ai    aj    ak    al funct   phi0     cp     mult
>
>    34    36    37    38     1    0.0     5.86    3
>
>    36    37    38    39     3
>
>    37    38    39    40     3
>
>    38    39    40    41     3
>
>    39    40    41    42     3
>
>    40    41    42    43     3
>
>    41    42    43    44     3
>
>    42    43    44    45     3
>
>    43    44    45    46     3
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Deniz
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>wrote:
>
>> On 8/04/2011 11:25 PM, Emine Deniz Tekin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Gromacs users,
>>>
>>> I want to covalently link the lauroic acid to the Valine residue (it is a
>>> peptide (amide) bond), I know that I should update the specbond.dat.But
>>> before updating this file, I need the NH as an N terminal of the first
>>> residue (Valine).When I used pdb2gmx with the –ter flag, I got either NH3,
>>> NH2 or None instead of NH.So, I add the [NH] directive in the
>>> aminoacids.n.rtp file, as follows;
>>>
>>>
>>> [ NH ]
>>>
>>> [ replace ]
>>>
>>> ; old-namenew-typenew-massnew-charge
>>>
>>> NLN14.0067-0.31
>>>
>>> CACH113.0190.127
>>>
>>> [ add ]
>>>
>>> 12HNCAC
>>>
>>> ;atom_typemasscharge
>>>
>>> H1.0080.31
>>>
>>> [ delete ]
>>>
>>> H
>>>
>>> [ bonds ]
>>>
>>> NHgb_2
>>>
>>> [ angles ]
>>>
>>> CANHga_11
>>>
>>> [ dihedrals ]
>>>
>>> HNCACgd_29
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> (ps. I wrote the charges of N, CA and H according to values defined in
>>> topol.top and also I used the Gromos96 53a6 force field)
>>>
>>>
>>> Then, I used the pdb2gmx with –ter, I could see:
>>>
>>> Select start terminus type for VAL
>>>
>>> 0: NH
>>>
>>> 1: NH3+
>>>
>>> 2: NH2
>>>
>>> 3: None
>>>
>>>
>>> Finally, I got thetopol.top, posre itp and conf.gro files. But when I
>>> looked into conf.gro, I see that I am getting “None”. How can I get the NH ?
>>>
>>>
>> Coordinating multiple "moving parts" like the specbond and terminus-fixing
>> is probably a recipe for trouble.
>>
>> Since you have to make an .rtp entry for lauroic acid anyway, you can make
>> one that uses backbone-style linking. Most of the forcefields will have
>> examples of non-amino-acid terminating residues - these make a single
>> peptide bond just like yours does. Now you can ignore the specbond and
>> terminus-fixing mechanisms entirely.
>>
>> Mark
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