[gmx-users] Problem with temperature and stochastic dynamics in FEP

Sanku M msanku65 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 3 04:42:32 CEST 2011


OKK, But, before, I have tried using md as integrator where I start the initial 
velocity as 280K ( which makes sense as the minimized configuration is 
essentially at low temperature) and have used Nose-hoover at 300K and I never 
had problem in getting the desired 300K after running a short NVT simulation as 
equilabration.
The problem arises when sd integrator is used.
In fact, I  just tried to generate the initial velocity at 300K along with sd 
integrator. I got the 303 K as average temperature again. The same simulation 
using md integrator always gives rise to 300K as average temperature( when used 
in conjunction with Nose-Hoover ) , even if I generate velocity at 280 K or 300K 
.

I guess that the initial velocity-generation temperature should not be an issue 
here. The sd integrator in contrast to md integrator may be the problem.





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From: Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
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Sent: Tue, August 2, 2011 8:40:21 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Problem with temperature and stochastic dynamics in FEP



Sanku M wrote:
> Hi Justin,
>   So, do you suggest that after minimization, I should generate the velocity at 
>300K instead ?
> i.,e for equilibration,should following the set-up?
> 

You should always equilibrate under the desired conditions.  Never make sudden 
changes, or else you're going to damage the stability of the system.

-Justin

> gen-vel                  = yes
>> >  gen-temp                = 300
>> >  gen-seed                = -1
> 
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> *From:* Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
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> *Sent:* Tue, August 2, 2011 8:26:16 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [gmx-users] Problem with temperature and stochastic dynamics in 
>FEP
> 
> 
> 
> Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>  >
>  >
>  > Sanku M wrote:
>  >> Hi Justin,
>  >>  I first performed two minimization using steep and l-bfgs as the method on 
>the solvated system for each lambda. Then I ran a 500ps NVT simulation on 
>minimized system ( for each lambda) where essentially same .mdp file was used 
>except the following change:
>  >>    gen-vel                  = yes
>  >>  gen-temp                = 280
>  >>  gen-seed                 = -1
>  >>
>  >> So, essentially, I heated the minimized system up from 280 K with ref_t 
>300K using sd integrator. But, here also I found the average temperature goes to 
>303 K( instead of 300 K) .
>  >
>  > Unless you did simulated annealing in between, you didn't heat the system, 
>you suddenly jolted the temperature, which is probably not stable.  Maybe the 
>integrator/Langevin thermostat does not react well to these conditions. 
>Equilibrate under the conditions you wish to collect data.  Your data collection 
>uses NPT, so running NVT at a different temperature and suddenly changing the 
>temperature and introducing pressure coupling is not an appropriate procedure. 
>If nothing else, your data will be unreliable, even if your temperature was 
>correct.
>  >
> 
> Sorry, misread the previous .mdp settings.  You're still using  NVT, but the 
>point about the temperature is still valid here.
> 
> -Justin
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