[gmx-users] how to simulate a line charge

Amit Choubey kgp.amit at gmail.com
Sun Aug 14 23:04:25 CEST 2011


sorry i did not mention it but the E field contribution should be zero, i am
sure about it. Also when i make all the cutoff = 0 the energy terms are
           Step           Time         Lambda
              0        0.00000        0.00000

   Energies (kJ/mol)
           Bond          Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
    1.11496e-07    0.00000e+00    0.00000e+00    1.03128e+06    1.03128e+06
 Pressure (bar)
    0.00000e+00

           Step           Time         Lambda
              1        1.00000        0.00000

   Energies (kJ/mol)
           Bond          Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
    7.49142e-02    0.00000e+00    0.00000e+00    1.03104e+06    1.03104e+06
 Pressure (bar)
    0.00000e+00

Coulomb (SR) is quite close but not exactly equal to previous case when
cutoff is 60 nm.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:57 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Amit Choubey wrote:
>
>> Following is the mdp file
>>
>> cpp                 =  /usr/bin/cpp
>> ;define              =  -DFLEX_SPC
>> constraints         =  none
>> integrator          =  steep
>> nsteps              =  10000
>> ;
>> ;       Energy minimizing stuff
>> ;
>> emtol               =  200
>> emstep              =  0.01
>> pbc = no
>> nstcomm             =  0
>> ns_type             =  grid
>> coulombtype     = Cut-off rlist               =  60
>> rcoulomb            =  60
>> rvdw                =  60
>> Tcoupl              =  no
>> Pcoupl              =  no
>> gen_vel             =  no
>>
>> E_x = 1 0 0
>> E_y = 1 0 0
>> E_z = 1 0 0
>>
>>
>> Following is the energy term
>>
>>           Step           Time         Lambda
>>              0        0.00000        0.00000
>>
>>   Energies (kJ/mol)
>>           Bond          Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
>>    1.11496e-07    0.00000e+00    0.00000e+00    9.90561e+05    9.90561e+05
>>  Pressure (bar)
>>    0.00000e+00
>>
>>           Step           Time         Lambda
>>              1        1.00000        0.00000
>>
>>   Energies (kJ/mol)
>>           Bond          Angle        LJ (SR)   Coulomb (SR)      Potential
>>    7.55922e-02    0.00000e+00    0.00000e+00    9.90324e+05    9.90324e+05
>>  Pressure (bar)
>>    0.00000e+00
>>
>>
>>
> I suspect that energy terms comes from the use of an electric field, which
> you had not mentioned before.
>
> -Justin
>
>  Amit
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 14, 2011 at 1:23 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Amit Choubey wrote:
>>
>>        Justin, when i define the whole line charge as a charge group i
>>        do get a coulomb energy contribution. I thought there would be
>>        no non-bonded contribution. I use a very high cut-off (longer
>>        than chain length) and no pbc. Am i missing something ?
>>
>>
>>    Without seeing your .mdp file and the actual energy terms you're
>>    observing, I can only guess.  One would think that if it is the only
>>    molecule in the system, there should be no intermolecular Coulombic
>>    terms (unless maybe some arise due to periodicity, but in that case
>>    you do not have an infinite system and then they are artifacts).
>>     There may be intramolecular terms (like 1-4) or PME-related terms.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>        On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Amit Choubey
>>        <kgp.amit at gmail.com <mailto:kgp.amit at gmail.com>
>>        <mailto:kgp.amit at gmail.com <mailto:kgp.amit at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>
>>           I was not sure if changing the size of maxcg would not
>> negatively
>>           influence anything else. I will give it a try. Thanks Justin
>>
>>
>>           On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 4:04 AM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>        <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>           <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>               Amit Choubey wrote:
>>
>>                   I change the maximum charge group size defined in the
>>                   include/types/nblist.h header from 32 to 267. Then
>> grompp
>>                   worked fine but the mdrun did not start. The
>>        following error
>>                   came out
>>
>>                   Program mdrun_jptlc, VERSION 4.5.3
>>                   Source code file: ns.c, line: 2417
>>
>>                   Fatal error:
>>                   Max #atoms in a charge group: 267 > 64
>>
>>
>>                       /* Verify whether largest charge group is <= max
>> cg.*
>>                        * This is determined by the type of the local
>>        exclusion
>>                   type *
>>                        * Exclusions are stored in bits. (If the type is
>>        not large*
>>                        * enough, enlarge it, unsigned char -> unsigned
>>        short
>>                   -> unsigned long)*
>>                        */
>>
>>
>>               The solution is described in the comment above.
>>
>>
>>                       maxcg = sizeof(t_excl)*8;
>>
>>
>>               Increase the size here.
>>
>>               -Justin
>>
>>
>>                       if (nr_in_cg > maxcg)
>>                       {
>>                           gmx_fatal(FARGS,"Max #atoms in a charge
>>        group: %d >
>>                   %d\n",
>>                                     nr_in_cg,maxcg);
>>                       }
>>
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