[gmx-users] Comparing ff in Topology file by PRODRG and gromos G45a3

XUEMING TANG yujan2007 at gmail.com
Wed Feb 9 20:14:42 CET 2011


Hi there

This is maybe an old question. I want to ask a general procedure of generate
topology file with gromo96 force field by Dundee Prodrg. Take SDS for an
example, I want to use gromos96 G45a3 forcefield. After the file is
generated by dundee, I compare the forcefield parameter of G45a3 with what
Dundee output for(bond length, angle, dihedral, imp, potential). There are
some differences (see below). While from papers author usually just
mentioned that the file is generated by Prodrg without detailed information.
According to Dundee website, the forcefield is gromos which is outdated.
Should I change all the forcefield parameter by hand for any molecule I want
to use with gromos ff. Or there is any shortcut I can try. I understand that
charge calculated by prodrg is inaccurate.
Additional question, would G53a6 is basically better than G45a3 for SDS?


         DundeePRo                         ff45a3
                 Length  Potential          Length Potential
CHn-CHn 0.153   3.35E+05        0.153   7.15E+06
C-SO1   0.143   2.51E+05           0.143   8.18E+06
SO1-S   0.143   3.35E+05
S-SO2   0.143   3.35E+05
S=SO3   0.15    3.77E+05           0.15    8.37E+06
S=SO4   0.15    3.77E+05           0.15    8.37E+06

             angle    Potential    angle    Potential
C-C-C        111        460.2        111        530
C-C-SO1      109.5      460.2      109.5        520
C-SO1-S      120        397.5
SO1-S-SOn    109.5      460.2


                dihedral    Potential    dihedral    Potential
S-SO1-SO3-SO2   35.3        836.8           35.3        334.8
C-C-C-C 0       5.9    3
SO1-C-C-C       0       5.9    3
S-SO1-C1-C2     0       3.8    3        0       1.3    3
C1-SO1-S-SO4    0       1.3    3
~
Mainly the potential is different. And I didnot find the exact value on the
blank parts in ff45a3 categories.

File generated by Dundee:

[ bonds ]
; ai  aj  fu    c0, c1, ...
   1   2   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C12  C11
   2   3   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C11  C10
   3   4   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C10  C9
   4   5   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C9  C8
   5   6   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C8  C7
   6   7   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C7  C6
   7   8   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C6  C5
   8   9   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C5  C4
   9  10   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C4  C3
  10  11   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C3  C2
  11  12   2    0.153    334720.0    0.153    334720.0 ;   C2  C1
  12  13   2    0.143    251040.0    0.143    251040.0 ;   C1  SO1
  13  14   2    0.143    334720.0    0.143    334720.0 ;   SO1  S
  14  15   2    0.143    334720.0    0.143    334720.0 ;   S  SO2
  14  16   2    0.150    376560.0    0.150    376560.0 ;   S  SO3
  14  17   2    0.150    376560.0    0.150    376560.0 ;   S  SO4

[ pairs ]
; ai  aj  fu    c0, c1, ...
   1   4   1                                           ;   C12  C9
   2   5   1                                           ;   C11  C8
   3   6   1                                           ;   C10  C7
   4   7   1                                           ;   C9  C6
   5   8   1                                           ;   C8  C5
   6   9   1                                           ;   C7  C4
   7  10   1                                           ;   C6  C3
   8  11   1                                           ;   C5  C2
   9  12   1                                           ;   C4  C1
  10  13   1                                           ;   C3  SO1
  11  14   1                                           ;   C2  S
  12  15   1                                           ;   C1  SO2
  12  16   1                                           ;   C1  SO3
  12  17   1                                           ;   C1  SO4

[ angles ]
; ai  aj  ak  fu    c0, c1, ...
   1   2   3   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C12  C11  C10
   2   3   4   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C11  C10  C9
   3   4   5   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C10  C9  C8
   4   5   6   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C9  C8  C7
   5   6   7   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C8  C7  C6
   6   7   8   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C7  C6  C5
   7   8   9   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C6  C5  C4
   8   9  10   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C5  C4  C3
   9  10  11   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C4  C3  C2
  10  11  12   1    111.0       460.2    111.0       460.2 ;   C3  C2  C1
  11  12  13   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   C2  C1  SO1
  12  13  14   1    120.0       397.5    120.0       397.5 ;   C1  SO1  S
  13  14  15   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   SO1  S  SO2
  13  14  16   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   SO1  S  SO3
  13  14  17   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   SO1  S  SO4
  15  14  16   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   SO2  S  SO3
  15  14  17   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   SO2  S  SO4
  16  14  17   1    109.5       460.2    109.5       460.2 ;   SO3  S  SO4

[ dihedrals ]
; ai  aj  ak  al  fu    c0, c1, m, ...
  14  13  16  15   2     35.3  836.8       35.3  836.8   ; imp   S  SO1  SO3
 SO2
   4   3   2   1   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C9  C10
 C11  C12
   5   4   3   2   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C8  C9  C10
 C11
   6   5   4   3   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C7  C8  C9
 C10
   7   6   5   4   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C6  C7  C8
 C9
   8   7   6   5   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C5  C6  C7
 C8
   9   8   7   6   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C4  C5  C6
 C7
  10   9   8   7   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C3  C4  C5
 C6
  11  10   9   8   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C2  C3  C4
 C5
12  11  10   9   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   C1  C2  C3
 C4
  13  12  11  10   1      0.0    5.9 3      0.0    5.9 3 ; dih   SO1  C1  C2
 C3
  14  13  12  11   1      0.0    3.8 3      0.0    3.8 3 ; dih   S  SO1  C1
 C2
  12  13  14  17   1      0.0    1.3 3      0.0    1.3 3 ; dih   C1  SO1  S
 SO4


Thank you for your time!

Best!
Xueming
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