[gmx-users] Domain decomposition configuration

Mark Abraham Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au
Thu Feb 10 01:31:59 CET 2011


On 10/02/2011 8:10 AM, Justin A. Lemkul wrote:
>
>
> Denny Frost wrote:
>> Is tpbconv with the "pbc" option the best way to make the molecules 
>> whole again?
>>
>
> The only way, as far as I'm aware (aside from editconf's crude 
> approach).  Do this before you concatenate your systems.

And you will then have potential issues with clashing atoms, so need to 
re-equilibrate. Unfortunately, in general there is no box definition 
where all molecules are whole and inside the box, and it's certainly not 
worthwhile looking for one.

Mark

>
> -Justin
>
>> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>     Denny Frost wrote:
>>
>>         This run is actually a combination of two 5x5x5 nm boxes, one if
>>         which was previously run in DD, and the other is water.  Since
>>         the length of that bond is almost 5 nm, is it possible that the
>>         pbc's are not being recognized?  There is no way I have a bond
>>         that long from my previous run.
>>
>>
>>     I'll venture a guess that there were broken molecules in the system
>>     you concatenated?  That would gel with a bond that stretches across
>>     a 5-nm box.  You have to deal with whole molecules in the input
>>     configuration.
>>
>>     -Justin
>>
>>         On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:56 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>> <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>            Denny Frost wrote:
>>
>>                I'm using version 4.5.3
>>
>>                Here's the output from the log file from DD initiation to
>>         the error:
>>
>>                Initializing Domain Decomposition on 8 nodes
>>                Dynamic load balancing: auto
>>                Will sort the charge groups at every domain 
>> (re)decomposition
>>                Initial maximum inter charge-group distances:
>>                   two-body bonded interactions: 4.893 nm, Bond, atoms
>>         8994 8996
>>                 multi-body bonded interactions: 4.893 nm, Angle, atoms
>>         8994 8997
>>                Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 5.382 nm
>>
>>
>>            Bonded interactions should normally not occur over such a 
>> length.
>>             The information printed here points to the culprits.  
>> What are
>>            these atoms, and why are they bonded if they are so far away?
>>
>>            -Justin
>>
>>                Using 0 separate PME nodes
>>                Scaling the initial minimum size with 1/0.8 (option -dds)
>>         = 1.25
>>                Optimizing the DD grid for 8 cells with a minimum initial
>>         size
>>                of 6.728 nm
>>                The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 0 Y 0 Z 1
>>
>>                -------------------------------------------------------
>>                Program mdrun_mpi, VERSION 4.5.3
>>                Source code file: domdec.c, line: 6428
>>
>>                Fatal error:
>>                There is no domain decomposition for 8 nodes that is
>>         compatible
>>                with the given box and a minimum cell size of 6.72787 nm
>>                Change the number of nodes or mdrun option -rdd or -dds
>>                Look in the log file for details on the domain 
>> decomposition
>>                For more information and tips for troubleshooting, please
>>         check
>>                the GROMACS
>>                website at http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Errors
>>
>>                And here is my mdp file
>>
>>                title               =  BMIM+PF6
>>                cpp                 =  /lib/cpp
>>                constraints         =  hbonds
>>                integrator          =  md
>>                dt                  =  0.002   ; ps !
>>                nsteps              =  75000   ; total 150 ps
>>                nstcomm             =  10
>>                nstxout             =  50000
>>                nstvout             =  50000
>>                nstfout             =  0
>>                nstlog              =  5000
>>                nstenergy           =  5000
>>                nstxtcout           =  25000
>>                nstlist             =  10
>>                ns_type             =  grid
>>                pbc                 =  xyz
>>                coulombtype         =  PME
>>                vdwtype             =  Cut-off
>>                rlist               =  1.2
>>                rcoulomb            =  1.2
>>                rvdw                =  1.2
>>                fourierspacing      =  0.12
>>                pme_order           =  4
>>                ewald_rtol          =  1e-5
>>                ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
>>                Tcoupl              =  berendsen
>>                tc_grps             =  BMI      PF6     SOL 
>> tau_t                             =  0.2  0.2  0.2
>>                ref_t               =  300  300  300
>>                nsttcouple          =  1
>>                ; Energy monitoring
>>                energygrps          =  BMI      PF6     SOL
>>                ; Isotropic pressure coupling is now on
>>                Pcoupl              =  berendsen
>>                pcoupltype          =  isotropic
>>                ;pc-grps             =  BMI      PFF
>>                tau_p               =  2.0
>>                ref_p               =  1.0
>>                compressibility     =  4.5e-5
>>
>>                ; Generate velocites is off at 300 K.
>>                gen_vel             =  yes
>>                gen_temp            =  300.0
>>                gen_seed            =  100000
>>
>>
>>                On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>> <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>                   Denny Frost wrote:
>>
>>                       I am trying to start a run using domain
>>         decomposition on a
>>                       5x5x10 nm box with about 26,000 atoms in it.  I've
>>         tried
>>                running
>>                       8-16 pp nodes, but gromacs always throws an error
>>         saying that
>>                       there is no domain decomposition compatible with
>>         this box
>>                and a
>>                       minimum cell size of 6.728 nm.  I've tried many 
>> values
>>                for -dds
>>                       and a few dd vectors, but with no luck.  Does
>>         anyone know
>>                to get
>>                       domain decomposition working on a rectangular
>>         system like
>>                this?
>>
>>
>>                   Not without significantly more information.  Please 
>> post:
>>
>>                   1. Your Gromacs version
>>                   2. Any DD-related information that is printed to
>>         either the
>>                log file
>>                   or stdout
>>                   3. Your .mdp file
>>
>>                   -Justin
>>
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>>
>>                   Justin A. Lemkul
>>                   Ph.D. Candidate
>>                   ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>                   MILES-IGERT Trainee
>>                   Department of Biochemistry
>>                   Virginia Tech
>>                   Blacksburg, VA
>>                   jalemkul[at]vt.edu <http://vt.edu> <http://vt.edu>
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>>            ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>            MILES-IGERT Trainee
>>            Department of Biochemistry
>>            Virginia Tech
>>            Blacksburg, VA
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>>     ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
>>     MILES-IGERT Trainee
>>     Department of Biochemistry
>>     Virginia Tech
>>     Blacksburg, VA
>>     jalemkul[at]vt.edu <http://vt.edu> | (540) 231-9080
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