[gmx-users] isopeptide bond

Mark Abraham mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
Tue Mar 15 10:01:53 CET 2011



On 15/03/11, Yulian Gavrilov  <zzeppelin87 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks! I understand it, but I had several errors about it. Without adding of (HP  CT  N) [angletype] it does not work. How to force it to take its type from its current environment, not its historical one?
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Your .rtp and .hdp specify the atom types.

Mark

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> 2011/3/15 Mark Abraham <mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>
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> > On 15/03/11, Yulian Gavrilov  <zzeppelin87 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > Dear Mark,
> > > Thank you for your help! Now it works! I made MD without errors.
> > > I  changed N3 to N, add one additional [angletype] to .itp (HP  CT  N) and removed one of HZ1 from Lys that participate in isopeptide bond; made appropriate changes in .atp, .hdp, .rtp and specbond.dat.
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> > Good. Like I've said a few times, you have a normal peptide bond and those interaction types all exist already; you do not need to add more interaction types. Look up in the .rtp what the HP atom type is used for. The H atom on the N should take its type from its current environment, not its historical one. Until your peptide bond resembles a backbone peptide in *all* particulars, it is not a well-modeled peptide bond.
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> > > 2011/3/14 Mark Abraham <mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>
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> > > > On 14/03/11, Yulian Gavrilov  <zzeppelin87 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > Dear, Mark
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> > > > > You asking about this (?): 
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> > > > > According to ffamber99.atp:
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> > > > > amber99_34        14.01000	; N  sp2
> > > > > nitrogen in amide groups
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> > > > > amber99_39        14.01000	; N3  sp3 N
> > > > > for charged amino groups (Lys, etc)
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> > > > > If I don't mix, “N” is used in
> > > > > peptide bond in amber99 and “N3” is used in Lys side chain. That
> > > > > is why I didn't use backbone peptide.
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> > > > N3 is used in a quaternary amine. N is used in an amide. Atom types are related to the chemical functional group they are *now* in, not what they were before a notional peptide condensation. You have an amide, and the nitrogen in it cannot be protonated. I said that in an email a fortnight ago. Use normal peptide parameters.
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> > > > > [atoms] and [bonds] section for LYQ
> > > > > and GLQ in topol.top 
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> > > > > [ atoms ]
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> > > > > ;   nr       type  resnr residue  atom 
> > > > >  cgnr     charge       mass  typeB    chargeB      massB
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> > > > >    750 amber99_34     48    LYQ      N 
> > > > >   748    -0.4157      14.01   ; qtot -5.416
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> > > > >    751 amber99_17     48    LYQ      H 
> > > > >   749     0.2719      1.008   ; qtot -5.144
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> > > > >    752 amber99_11     48    LYQ     CA 
> > > > >   750   -0.07206      12.01   ; qtot -5.216
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> > > > >    753 amber99_19     48    LYQ     HA 
> > > > >   751     0.0994      1.008   ; qtot -5.116
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> > > > >    754 amber99_11     48    LYQ     CB 
> > > > >   752   -0.04845      12.01   ; qtot -5.165
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> > > > > 
> > > > >    755 amber99_18     48    LYQ    HB1 
> > > > >   753      0.034      1.008   ; qtot -5.131
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> > > > >    756 amber99_18     48    LYQ    HB2 
> > > > >   754      0.034      1.008   ; qtot -5.097
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> > > > >    757 amber99_11     48    LYQ     CG 
> > > > >   755    0.06612      12.01   ; qtot -5.031
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> > > > >    758 amber99_18     48    LYQ    HG1 
> > > > >   756    0.01041      1.008   ; qtot -5.02
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> > > > >    759 amber99_18     48    LYQ    HG2 
> > > > >   757    0.01041      1.008   ; qtot -5.01
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> > > > >    760 amber99_11     48    LYQ     CD 
> > > > >   758   -0.03768      12.01   ; qtot -5.048
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> > > > >    761 amber99_18     48    LYQ    HD1 
> > > > >   759    0.01155      1.008   ; qtot -5.036
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> > > > >    762 amber99_18     48    LYQ    HD2 
> > > > >   760    0.01155      1.008   ; qtot -5.025
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> > > > >    763 amber99_11     48    LYQ     CE 
> > > > >   761    0.32604      12.01   ; qtot -4.699
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> > > > > 
> > > > >    764 amber99_28     48    LYQ    HE1 
> > > > >   762   -0.03358      1.008   ; qtot -4.732
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >    765 amber99_28     48    LYQ    HE2 
> > > > >   763   -0.03358      1.008   ; qtot -4.766
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >    766 amber99_39     48    LYQ     NZ 
> > > > >   764   -1.03581      14.01   ; qtot -5.801
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> > > > > 
> > > > >    767 amber99_17     48    LYQ    HZ1 
> > > > >   765    0.38604      1.008   ; qtot -5.415
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> > > > >    768 amber99_17     48    LYQ    HZ2 
> > > > >   766    0.38604      1.008   ; qtot -5.029
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> > > > Atom 766 is bound to two carbon atoms and two hydrogen atoms. There is no such thing as a quaternary amide nitrogen, and certainly AMBER does not have parameters for it.
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> > > > >    769  amber99_2     48    LYQ      C 
> > > > >   767     0.5973      12.01   ; qtot -4.432
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> > > > > 
> > > > >    770 amber99_41     48    LYQ      O 
> > > > >   768    -0.5679         16   ; qtot -5
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> > > > >   2440 amber99_34    152    GLQ      N 
> > > > >  2438    -0.4157      14.01   ; qtot -12.42
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> > > > >   2441 amber99_17    152    GLQ      H 
> > > > >  2439     0.2719      1.008   ; qtot -12.14
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> > > > >   2442 amber99_11    152    GLQ     CA 
> > > > >  2440    -0.0252      12.01   ; qtot -12.17
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> > > > >   2443 amber99_19    152    GLQ    HA1 
> > > > >  2441     0.0698      1.008   ; qtot -12.1
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> > > > >   2444 amber99_19    152    GLQ    HA2 
> > > > >  2442     0.0698      1.008   ; qtot -12.03
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> > > > >   2445  amber99_2    152    GLQ      C 
> > > > >  2443     0.5973      12.01   ; qtot -11.43
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> > > > >   2446 amber99_41    152    GLQ      O 
> > > > >  2444    -0.5679         16   ; qtot -12
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> > > > > [ bonds ]
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> > > > > ;  ai    aj funct            c0        
> > > > >    c1            c2            c3
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> > > > >   750   751     1 
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> > > > >   750   752     1 
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> > > > >   752   753     1 
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> > > > >   752   754     1 
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> > > > >   752   769     1 
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> > > > >   754   755     1 
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> > > > >   754   756     1 
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> > > > >   757   758     1 
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> > > > >   757   759     1 
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> > > > >   757   760     1 
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> > > > >   763   765     1 
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> > > > >   763   766     1 
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> > > > >   766   767     1 
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> > > > >   766   768     1 
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> > > > >   766  2445     1 
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> > > > OK, you have the N-C bond for the peptide link.
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> > > > >   769   770     1 
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> > > > >  2440  2441     1 
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> > > > >  2440  2442     1 
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> > > > >  2442  2443     1 
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> > > > >  2442  2444     1 
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> > > > >  2442  2445     1 
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> > > > >  2445  2446     1 
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> > > > Does 2445 make any other bonds? If not, how did you handle the chain termination?
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> > > > Mark
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> > > Sincerely,
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> > > Yulian Gavrilov 
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