[gmx-users] g_hbond

Steven Neumann s.neumann08 at gmail.com
Thu Sep 1 10:14:46 CEST 2011


On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Steven Neumann wrote:
>
>> One question.... for Glycine it is easy to assess 3 possible hbonds which
>> can create as hydrogen is only one atom as a side chain.
>> How about other amino acids and their maximum hbonds they can create?
>>
>>
>
> Any OH or NH group is a donor, any lone pair is an acceptor (though
> obviously not modeled explicitly in MD).  The ability of MD force fields to
> agree with reality in this respect is debatable, but should come close.
>
> -Justin
>



> Thank you Justin. Can you please clarify me something and tell me whether I
> am wrong. This is what I obtained from calulating hbonds between 10 ligands
> and Glycine. Each ligand serve 8 OH group (flavanoid) :


*Reading file md.tpr, VERSION 4.5.4 (single precision)
Specify 2 groups to analyze:
Group     0 (           r_96) has     7 elements     -* this is my Glycine -
7 atoms (side chain - Hydrogen)
*Group     1 (            LIG) has   510 elements    -* these are 10
ligands, 51 atoms each, 8 OH group
*Select a group: 0 1
Selected 0: 'r_96'
Select a group: Selected 1: 'LIG'
Checking for overlap in atoms between r_96 and LIG
Calculating hydrogen bonds between r_96 (7 atoms) and LIG (510 atoms)
Found 81 donors and 112 acceptors                              *
**
*81 donors? It should be 80 when I have 10 ligands with 8 Oh group... Am I
right?*
*112 acceptors? 7 atoms of my Glycine x 12 possibilities?*
**
*trn version: GMX_trn_file (single precision)
Reading frame       0 time    0.000
Will do grid-seach on 11x11x11 grid, rcut=0.35
Last frame       2000 time 100000.000
Average number of hbonds per timeframe 0.642 out of 4536 possible     - that
is understood = (112x81)/2*
**
*So how many possibilities has Glycine in order to create hbond? Shall I
choose just a side chain which is hydrogen?*
**
*Steven*







> Steven
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Neumann <s.neumann08 at gmail.com<mailto:
>> s.neumann08 at gmail.com>**> wrote:
>>
>>    Thank you for clarification Justin!!! The Manual is not as clear as
>>    you :P
>>         Steven
>>
>>    On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu
>>    <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>        Steven Neumann wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>            On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 3:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>            <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>             <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>               Steven Neumann wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>                   On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 2:39 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>                   <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
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>>            <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>>> wrote:
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>>
>>
>>                      Steven Neumann wrote:
>>
>>                          Hi Gromacs Users,
>>                           I have calculated hydrogen bonds and
>>            collisions between my
>>                          ligands and every single residue using
>>            g_hbond. Looking
>>                   at the
>>                          criteria adpoted by Gromacs I found impossible
>>            that number of
>>                          hydrogen bonds were higher than number of
>>            collisions...
>>                   And what
>>                          is interesting in one of my residue I obtained
>>            result like
>>                          this... All Hbonds with Glycine - 1872, All
>>            Collisions 704.
>>                           Does anyone know how is it possible?
>>                                               I don't know how any of your
>> numbers are possible
>>            (1872 H-bonds
>>                      forming with a glycine?), or what you are defining
>>            as a collision
>>                      and how you calculated it. Please provide the
>>            exact commands that
>>                      you're using.  If you're equating a contact (e.g.
>>            from g_mindist)
>>                      with a collision, then realize that the default
>>            criteria for a
>>                      contact are very different than the geometric
>>            criteria for a
>>                      hydrogen bond.
>>
>>                      -Justin
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>>                    My system is made of 10 ligands and one protein. I
>>            used command:
>>                    g_hbond -f md.trr -s md.tpr -n res91.ndx -num
>>            91with10LIGbonds.xvg
>>                    Where I specified in the index file two groups: 10
>>            ligands and
>>                   Glycine residue. So I have calculated hbonds (second
>>            column) and
>>                   collisions (third column) and then I made a sum of
>>            all frames
>>                   during 100 ns simualtion time (one frame every 50 ps)
>>            obtaining
>>                   1872 hbonds and 703 collisions between Glycine and 10
>>            ligands. I
>>                   did it with every residue to assess binding affinity of
>>                   different amino acids.
>>                   Criteria for collision is distance <3.5 A, and fo
>>            hbond distance
>>                   <3.5 A and angle. So when calcualting hbond and
>>            collisions the
>>                   number of hbonds has has to be smaller while
>>            collision takes
>>                   into account hbonds as welll. I obtained results like
>>            this for
>>                   all other residues which seems to be correct. Am I
>>            right?
>>               No.  The second column is not inclusive of the first.  It
>>            counts the
>>               number of atoms that are within hydrogen bonding
>>            distance, but do
>>               not meet the criteria because of the angle between D-H-A.
>>
>>
>>               -Justin
>>
>>               In this case number of collisions has to include number
>>            of hbonds.
>>               If collision is counted as a distance <3.5 and hbond
>>            distance <3.5
>>               plus angle D-H-A means that collisions covers hbonds...
>>            Explain
>>               please whether I am wrong.
>>
>>
>>        The second column lists the number of atom pairs that satisfy
>>        the distance requirement but do not satisfy the angle
>>        requirement and therefore are not hydrogen bonds.  The two
>>        columns are mutually exclusive.  The sum of these two columns
>>        would be the total number of pairs that are within
>>        hydrogen-bonding distance, but the first column indicates those
>>        that are actually involved in hydrogen bonds (because of the
>>        angle), and the second column indicates those that are not
>>        involved in hydrogen bonds.
>>
>>
>>        -Justin
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