[gmx-users] missing gbsa parameters

Vedat Durmaz durmaz at zib.de
Fri May 4 18:36:07 CEST 2012


the order of force field, ligand, target is correct. and usually works 
fine in explicit solvent simulations.

but i actually do not include the gbsa.itp, since it is defined by the 
choice of the force field. (as soon as i rename its gbst.itp, grompp 
says it cannot find that file ..)

but in general: so far, i always used the standard value for the "-a" 
option of acpype. however, in order to do implicit simulations with 
amber99sb, which setting (gaff or amber) do i have to use, alan? are 
both valid?

btw: implicit solvent simulation with the protein only (pdb2gmx 
&amber99sb parameterized) works fine ..

have a nice weekend





Am 04.05.2012 16:12, schrieb Alan:
> Have a look at 
> http://code.google.com/p/acpype/wiki/TutorialAcpype4Gromacs
>
> There there's a note:
>
> *NB(1):*#include "Ligand.itp" has to be inserted right after 
> ffamber**.itp line and before Protein_*.itp line in /Complex.top/.
>
> Are you inserting your gbsa.itp in the *right* place of your top file?
>
> Alan
>
> On 4 May 2012 14:14, Vedat Durmaz <durmaz at zib.de 
> <mailto:durmaz at zib.de>> wrote:
>
>
>     thanks justin and alan.
>
>     i also had the suspicion that the error is caused by case
>     sensitivity. simply replacing all atom types from lower to upper
>     case within the ligand.itp file yields the same error: "missing gb
>     parameters".
>
>
>     using the "--disambiguate" option for the parameterization with
>     acpype has exactly no effect. the generated *_GMX.itp file still
>     contains the same lower case letters for each atom type. am i
>     doing something wrong?
>
>
>     when using the "-atom amber" option (amber99sb instead of gaff), i
>     do get upper case types, which are not always the same as given
>     with "-a gaff". however, again, i am told by grompp, that GB
>     parameters are missing for 15 atom types. and again, most of
>     theese atom types ARE included in the respective gbsa.itp file (in
>     share/gromacs/top/amber99sb.ff), but few are not.
>
>     and according to those atom types that are not mentioned in
>     grompp's error output: about half of them is listed in gbsa.itp
>     while the other ones are not.
>
>     i can't see any correlation between the atom types listed in my
>     parameterized molecule's itp-file and the entries in gbsa.itp.
>
>     does anyone have any idea? is there perhaps some other force
>     field/database file that is checked apart from gbsa.itp?!
>
>     thanks again,
>
>     vedat
>
>
>
>     Am 04.05.2012 11:23, schrieb Alan:
>>     Hi there,
>>
>>     look at 'acpype -h', in particular:
>>
>>      -g, --disambiguate    disambiguate lower and uppercase atomtypes
>>     in GMX top
>>                             file
>>
>>     Alan
>>
>>     On 3 May 2012 14:34, Vedat Durmaz <durmaz at zib.de
>>     <mailto:durmaz at zib.de>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>         hi guys,
>>
>>         i'm trying to simulate some receptor ligand system with
>>         implicit solvent using gbsa in order to get a quick folding
>>         of some tens of N-terminal peptides. this works pretty well
>>         with the target only applying the amber99sb FF. as soon as i
>>         try to simulate it together with the ligand which was
>>         parameterized with acpype (using amber-antechamber), i get
>>         the following error at the grompp step:
>>
>>         GB parameter(s) missing or negative for atom type 'cc'
>>         GB parameter(s) missing or negative for atom type 'n'
>>         ...
>>         Fatal error:
>>         Can't do GB electrostatics; the implicit_genborn_params
>>         section of the forcefield is missing parameters for 15
>>         atomtypes or they might be negative.
>>
>>
>>         the atom types in the error output are exactly those listed
>>         in the [ atom types ] section of the ligand's topology file
>>         created with acpype/antechamber. however, the atom types
>>         mentioned here ARE listed in the respective gbsa.itp file
>>         which looks like this:
>>
>>
>>         [ implicit_genborn_params ]
>>
>>         ; atype      sar      st     pi       gbr       hct
>>         ...
>>         CC           0.172    1      1.554    0.1875    0.72 ; C
>>
>>
>>         does anybody know how to handle this problem?
>>
>>         and is there someone that can tell me how (with which
>>         parameter values) to add GAFF atom types like e.g. "ss",
>>         "hn", "hx", "os" to the gbsa.itp file?
>>
>>         thanks in advance and take care
>>
>>         vedat durmaz
>>
>>
>>
>>
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