[gmx-users] Gromos 53a6, .mdp parameters for reaction field

Mohsen Ramezanpour ramezanpour.mohsen at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 18:00:17 CEST 2015


As an update,

After reading the suggested links I tried two .mdp files which were
suggested in discussions as solutions. Both worked without any problem on
my system.

1) rlist/r(columb/vdw)=(1.4/1.4) , in fact the problem seems to be the
"twin-range + RF"
2) I used "twin-range + RF" BUT I reduced the nstlist to 1, this also works
for my system.

Thanks for your comments.
Cheers
Mohsen

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Mohsen Ramezanpour <
ramezanpour.mohsen at gmail.com> wrote:

> I looked at the first link, it was a useful discussion.
> Now, I am trying suggestions with rlist/r(columb/vdw)=(1.4/1.4) and
> everything is working properly till now.
> It seems the problem was the "twin-range" + RF with this version of
> Gromacs as has been discussed and you mentioned already.
>
> I am playing a little bit to see if I everything will be fine with the
> rest of test simulation.
> I will reply again after my tests.
>
> Thanks for the links
>
> Cheers
> Mohsen
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:21 PM, João M. Damas <jmdamas at itqb.unl.pt>
> wrote:
>
>> I really think you may be losing time with LINCS parameters. Look at these
>> links too:
>>
>>
>> https://mailman-1.sys.kth.se/pipermail/gromacs.org_gmx-users/2014-March/088108.html
>> http://redmine.gromacs.org/issues/1400
>>
>> You use a twin-range, i.e. a rlist/r(coulomb/vdw) of 0.8/1.4, so I really
>> think that this may be the source of your problems. The links that I sent
>> you present solutions to your problem, but almost always at a
>> computational
>> cost, i.e. slower simulations.
>>
>> João
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 9:34 PM, V.V.Chaban <vvchaban at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Maybe indeed downgrade to an earlier version.
>> >
>> > I, for sure, successfully used reaction field with gromacs 3-3-3
>> > (imagine when it was).
>> >
>> > Professor Vitaly V. Chaban
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:49 PM, Mohsen Ramezanpour
>> > <ramezanpour.mohsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi Chaban,
>> > >
>> > > Me too, but I do not know why starting with the same initial
>> structures
>> > and
>> > > also starting from equilibrated structures again cause LINCS problems
>> in
>> > one
>> > > not in the other one.
>> > >
>> > > I have tried lincs-iter and lincs-order and also lincs allowable angle
>> > > deviations but LINCS error still exist. This is why I think there is
>> > > something wrong with other parameters, e.g. reaction field!
>> > > Sure, I will look at epsilon_r, thanks.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 11:44 AM, V.V.Chaban <vvchaban at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> I do not see much connection between bond constraints and treatment
>> of
>> > >> electrostatics beyond the cut-off distance.
>> > >>
>> > >> There is also an "epsilon_r" keyword. I would investigate what
>> exactly
>> > >> it means and whether it is used in the reaction field procedure.
>> > >>
>> > >> The "all-bonds" contraint often results in different problems. You
>> > >> will have to play with the relevant parameters, like lincs_order and
>> > >> allowable deviation.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 2:28 PM, Mohsen Ramezanpour
>> > >> <ramezanpour.mohsen at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> > Dear Gromacs users,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I am interested in simulation of lipid bilayers with Gromos96 53a6.
>> > >> > As I understood this force field has been parametrized with
>> reaction
>> > >> > field
>> > >> > instead of pme.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Based on literatures, I have the following .mdp parameters:
>> > >> > But I am not sure of those as my system has lots of LINCS warnings
>> > with
>> > >> > these parameters.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > integrator               = md
>> > >> > tinit                       = 0
>> > >> > dt                          = 0.002
>> > >> > nsteps                   = 50000
>> > >> > nstcomm               = 1
>> > >> > comm-grps            =
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > nstxout                  = 0
>> > >> > nstvout                  = 0
>> > >> > nstfout                   = 0
>> > >> > nstenergy                = 100
>> > >> > nstxtcout                = 5000
>> > >> > xtc-precision           = 1000
>> > >> > energygrps              = system
>> > >> >
>> > >> > nstlist                      = 5
>> > >> > ns_type                   = grid
>> > >> > pbc                         = xyz
>> > >> > rlist                         = 0.8
>> > >> >
>> > >> > coulombtype             = reaction_field
>> > >> > rcoulomb-switch        = 0
>> > >> > rcoulomb                  = 1.4
>> > >> > epsilon_rf                 = 62
>> > >> > vdw-type                  = Cut-off
>> > >> > rvdw-switch              = 0
>> > >> > rvdw                        = 1.4
>> > >> > DispCorr                  = no
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > tcoupl                     = v-rescale
>> > >> > tc_grps                   = lipid   water_ion
>> > >> > tau_t                      =    0.1  0.1
>> > >> > ref_t                       =    353  353
>> > >> > Pcoupl                   = berendsen
>> > >> > pcoupltype             = semiisotropic
>> > >> > tau_p                     = 1.0  1.0
>> > >> > compressibility       = 4.6e-5  4.6e-5
>> > >> > ref_p                     = 1.0  1.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > gen_vel                    = yes
>> > >> > gen_temp                 = 353
>> > >> > gen_seed                 = 17352
>> > >> >
>> > >> > constraints               = all-bonds
>> > >> > constraint-algorithm     = Lincs
>> > >> > unconstrained-start      = no
>> > >> > shake-tol                    = 1e-04
>> > >> > morse                        = no
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Interestingly, when I use common Gromos parameters including pme,
>> as
>> > >> > follows, I do not have any LINCS problem with my system.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > integrator                = md
>> > >> > tinit                        = 0
>> > >> > dt                           = 0.002
>> > >> > nsteps                   = 50000
>> > >> > pbc                        = xyz
>> > >> > comm-mode           = linear
>> > >> > nstcomm                = 1
>> > >> > comm-grps             = system
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > nstxout                  = 0
>> > >> > nstvout                  = 0
>> > >> > nstfout                  = 0
>> > >> > nstlist                   = 10
>> > >> > ns_type                 = grid
>> > >> > nstenergy              = 100
>> > >> > nstxtcout               = 5000
>> > >> > energygrps            = system
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > coulombtype              = pme
>> > >> > rcoulomb                    = 1.0
>> > >> > rlist                            = 1.0
>> > >> > vdw-type                    = cutoff
>> > >> > rvdw                         = 1.0
>> > >> > DispCorr                   = no
>> > >> > table-extension          = 1
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > tcoupl                     = v-rescale
>> > >> > tc-grps                    = lipid  water_ion
>> > >> > tau-t                       = 0.1   0.1
>> > >> > ref-t                        = 353   353
>> > >> > Pcoupl                    = berendsen
>> > >> > Pcoupltype              = semiisotropic
>> > >> > ref-p                        = 1.0  1.0
>> > >> > tau-p                       = 1.0  1.0
>> > >> > compressibility         = 4.5e-5   4.5e-5
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > constraints                  = all-bonds
>> > >> > constraint-algorithm     = Lincs
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > gen_vel        = yes
>> > >> > gen_temp    = 353
>> > >> > gen_seed    = -1
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Since the initial structures are the same, I think my parameters
>> for
>> > >> > reaction field one has problem. I have also tried shorter time
>> steps
>> > >> > (even
>> > >> > 0.5 fs) and also started from different initial structures but the
>> > >> > problem
>> > >> > still exist.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I searched the mailing list but I could not find my answer
>> completely.
>> > >> > Please let me know if you have any idea about parameters or if you
>> > have
>> > >> > any
>> > >> > .mdp file for reaction field (Gromos 53a6).
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Cheers
>> > >> > Mohsen
>> > >> > --
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