[gmx-users] Propylene Carbonate

Sencer Selcuk sselcuk at princeton.edu
Mon Feb 6 15:46:42 CET 2017


Justin,

I am pretty sure there is a reliable parametrization of propylene 
carbonate (PC) in OPLSaa. The OPLSaa parameters included in GROMACS 
lists all PC atoms explicitly as well. The opls_771 to opls_779 
non-bonded types correspond to PC atoms.

In the bonded part, however, OS-C-OS angle is missing. I checked the 
parameters provided with Tinker, the same angle is missing.  There are 
several papers & dissertations where people say they used GROMACS and 
the OPLS parameters provided there in to model PC. So I feel like none 
of the parameters are missing, but  I am doing something wrong.

I would really appreciate if you, or someone with experience can take a 
quick look -as I believe this should be a very straight forward example 
of .top generation.

Best,

Sencer


On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:41 AM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2/5/17 12:29 PM, Sencer Selcuk wrote:
>> Sotirios,
>> 
>> Thanks for your response. The angle I am looking at is actually 
>> present in the
>> molecule, but the corresponding parameters are missing from the 
>> ffbonded.itp.
>> With the hope that white spaces won't be messed when I send this 
>> email, this is
>> the propylene carbonate molecule with the bonded atom types listed in
>> ffnonbonded.itp:
>> 
>>     O
>>     ||
>>     C
>>    /  \
>> OS   OS
>>  |      |
>> CT---CT-CT
>> 
>> 
>> and the angle I cannot find in the ffbonded.itp is OS-C-OS bond.
>> 
> 
> If the force field doesn't already have parameters for it, you'll 
> need to parametrize it in accordance with the parent force field's 
> normal parametrization strategy.  There may be parameters in OPLS-AA 
> that are published but not incorporated in GROMACS; there have been 
> several recent extensions of the force field for drug-like molecules 
> that may be useful.
> 
> -Justin
> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Sencer
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 5, 2017 at 11:18 AM, Sotirios Dionysios I. Papadatos
>> <si.papadatos at edu.cut.ac.cy> wrote:
>>> automated builders usually produce these mistakes. I see that you 
>>> already
>>> checked which atoms correspond to this error. Check first if there 
>>> is an
>>> actual bond there. If it is check ffbonded if these atom types are 
>>> parametrized.
>>> 
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: gromacs.org_gmx-users-bounces at maillist.sys.kth.se
>>> <gromacs.org_gmx-users-bounces at maillist.sys.kth.se> on behalf of 
>>> Sencer Selcuk
>>> <sselcuk at princeton.edu>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 1, 2017 6:18:07 AM
>>> To: gromacs.org_gmx-users at maillist.sys.kth.se
>>> Subject: [gmx-users] Propylene Carbonate
>>> 
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I am coming from a first principles background to the classical MD
>>> world, and up until now I used only ReaxFF implementation in LAMMPS
>>> which doesn't really require a topology file of all bonds and angles
>>> etc. Now I would like to do some OPLSaa simulations, starting with
>>> liquid propylene carbonate. That is partly because of a scientific
>>> problem I am interested in, and partly I thought it would be easy to
>>> work with as oplsaa.ff/atomtypes.atp explicitly include the atoms of
>>> propylene carbonate (opls_771 to opls_779).
>>> 
>>> I tried using topolbuild to generate an initial topology file. It
>>> correctly guessed the correct opls_nnn names most of the atoms. For 
>>> the
>>> others the atom type (CT, C, O etc.) were correct, and I am 
>>> providing
>>> charges from literature, so I suppose it wouldn't matter (is that
>>> right?). Still, I changed the opls_nnn names to the correct ones 
>>> listed
>>> in atomtypes.atp.
>>> 
>>> My real problem is that one of the angles, OS-C-OS angle, seems to 
>>> be
>>> missing from the force field files. gmx grompp complains about it 
>>> (and
>>> about 4 dihedrals, actually) saying:
>>> 
>>>>  ERROR 1 [file molecule.top, line 95]:
>>>>    No default Angle types
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ERROR 2 [file molecule.top, line 100]:
>>>>    No default Proper Dih. types
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ERROR 3 [file molecule.top, line 101]:
>>>>    No default Proper Dih. types
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ERROR 4 [file molecule.top, line 102]:
>>>>    No default Proper Dih. types
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ERROR 5 [file molecule.top, line 103]:
>>>>    No default Proper Dih. types
>>> 
>>> I am copying the relevant parts about the missing angle, and the 
>>> mdp,
>>> gro and top files are attached:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  [atoms]
>>>>     10    opls_773     1        PC      OS    3  -0.44200  15.99940
>>>>     ;   0.1370000
>>>>     11    opls_772     1        PC       C    4   0.85700  12.01100
>>>>     ;   0.9940000
>>>>     12    opls_771     1        PC       O    4  -0.51000  15.99940
>>>>     ;   0.4840000
>>>>     13    opls_773     1        PC      OS    2  -0.48400  15.99940
>>>>     ;   0.0000000
>>>>  ...
>>>>  [angles]
>>>>  ...
>>>>      10    11    13                                 ;    OS-     C-
>>>>  OS
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I have inspected the ffbonded.itp file manually, and parameters for
>>> OS-C-OS angle is not listed. There is a OS-CO-OS listing, which I
>>> understand belongs to acetal like structures. Shall I use this -as I
>>> have seen numerous literature examples where people say "we used 
>>> OPLSaa
>>> force field" to describe propylene carbonate, without giving any
>>> details. I am pretty sure, the problem is not about the force field
>>> file itself, it is not missing a line or anything like that - I also
>>> looked at the oplsaa parameteres of Tinker, and parameters for the 
>>> same
>>> angle is missing in that case as well. Then what do I do with the
>>> missing dihedrals (it is the whole first dihedrals section in the 
>>> .top
>>> file)?
>>> 
>>> Finally, the .top file generated by topolbuild has other lines with
>>> "missing" data, as well. But I can find the relevant parameters in 
>>> the
>>> ffbonded.itp file, and grompp does not complain anyway. So can I
>>> suppose it is going to use the correct parameters for these lines?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>       7     5     6    1     110.700    313.8000     ;    CT-    
>>>> CT-
>>>>   HC
>>>>       7     5    13   1     109.500    418.4000     ;    CT-    CT-
>>>>  OS
>>>>       5   13    11                                                 
>>>>  ;
>>>>    CT-    OS-     C ;  data missing
>>>>       5     7    10   1     109.500    418.4000     ;    CT-    CT-
>>>>  OS
>>>>       5     7     8    1     110.700    313.8000     ;    CT-    
>>>> CT-
>>>>   HC
>>>>       5     7     9    1     110.700    313.8000     ;    CT-    
>>>> CT-
>>>>   HC
>>> 
>>> I really appreciate any help as a novice here! Best,
>>> 
>>> Sencer Selcuk
>>> Department of Chemistry
>>> Princeton University
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