[gmx-users] rlist

Faezeh Pousaneh fpoosaneh at gmail.com
Sun Jan 14 17:40:15 CET 2018


Thanks a lot,


Best regards


On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 5:32 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On 1/14/18 11:29 AM, Faezeh Pousaneh wrote:
>
>> Thank you Justin, now I understood. However, I do not have any target data
>> for my system. What do you suggest? the longer rcoulomb is safer, right?
>>
>
> Not necessarily. Longer cutoffs do not imply greater accuracy, nor does
> any specific value. It depends on your model. You have to demonstrate to a
> skeptical audience that your methods are sound. That requires describing a
> known system and its structure, energetics, and dynamics. Then you can move
> to predicting unknowns. Without that, there's no control to determine if
> your work is meaningful or a random number generator.
>
>
> -Justin
>
>
>> Best regards
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 4:47 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 1/14/18 10:42 AM, Faezeh Pousaneh wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Justin. But I only define vdW potential form, coulomb potential
>>>> form
>>>> is as in Gromacs. So I would like to have electrostatic interactions as
>>>> other systems, so are
>>>>
>>>>     rlist                 = 0.9  (in nm)
>>>>     rcoulomb        = 0.9  (in nm)
>>>>
>>>> fine while I am using PME?
>>>>
>>>> Again, there is no standard value here and it is dictated by the
>>> functional form being used. You have a custom interaction potential, even
>>> if you're using normal PME alongside you have user-defined, tabulated vdW
>>> interactions. Presumably there should be some evaluation of what cutoffs
>>> are used to satisfy whatever the assumptions are in the parametrization
>>> of
>>> your model, i.e. you need to have some target data of a known system that
>>> tells you that your physical model (cutoffs and functional form) is
>>> right,
>>> and then you use those same settings in whatever systems are of interest.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 1/14/18 6:01 AM, Faezeh Pousaneh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a system of charged hard spheres (user-potential), where the
>>>>>> vdW
>>>>>> cut-off should be diameter of my molecule 0.3479. I wonder if I chose
>>>>>> rlist
>>>>>> and rcoulomb correctly? (see below please)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not sure if anyone can tell you that. You're using custom
>>>>>>
>>>>> potentials,
>>>>> so setting cutoffs is part of the parametrization of that potential
>>>>> itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> integrator                = md
>>>>>
>>>>>     dt                        = 0.001
>>>>>>     nsteps                    = 30000000
>>>>>>     nstxout                   = 100000           ; save coordinates
>>>>>> every 0
>>>>>> ps
>>>>>>     nstvout                   = 100000           ; save velocities
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> 0
>>>>>> ps
>>>>>>     nstlog                    = 100000           ; update log file
>>>>>> every
>>>>>>     nstenergy                 = 100000        ; save energies every
>>>>>>     nstxtcout                 = 100000       ; Output frequency for
>>>>>> xtc
>>>>>> file
>>>>>>     xtc-precision             = 100000       ; precision for xtc file
>>>>>>     ns_type                   = grid        ; search neighboring grid
>>>>>> cells
>>>>>>     nstlist                   = 10           ;  fs
>>>>>>     pbc                       = xyz         ; 3-D PBC
>>>>>>     rlist                          = 0.9         ; short-range
>>>>>> neighbor-list
>>>>>> cutoff (in nm)
>>>>>>     rcoulomb                  = 0.9         ; short-range
>>>>>> electrostatic
>>>>>> cutoff
>>>>>> (in nm)
>>>>>>     rvdw                      = 0.3479      ; short-range van der
>>>>>> Waals
>>>>>> cutoff
>>>>>> (in nm)
>>>>>>     coulombtype               = PME-user         ; Particle Mesh Ewald
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> long-range electrostatics
>>>>>>     pme_order                 = 4           ; cubic interpolation
>>>>>>     fourierspacing            = 0.16        ; grid spacing for FFT
>>>>>>     vdw-type                  = user
>>>>>>     Tcoupl                    = berendsen   ; modified Berendsen
>>>>>> thermostat
>>>>>>     tc-grps                   = co2   rest           ; two coupling
>>>>>> groups -
>>>>>> more accurate
>>>>>>     tau_t                     =  0.1   0.1 ; time constant, in ps
>>>>>>     ref_t                     =  179.8  179.8 ; reference temperature,
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> each group, in K
>>>>>>     ;tc-grps                  = system
>>>>>> cutoff-scheme              =group
>>>>>>     energygrps                = co2 rest
>>>>>>     Pcoupl                    =  berendsen ;Parrinello-Rahman
>>>>>>     Pcoupltype                = Isotropic
>>>>>>     tau_p                     = 1.0
>>>>>>     compressibility           = 6.2e-5
>>>>>>     ref_p                     = 5500.0
>>>>>>     gen_vel                   = yes
>>>>>>     gen_temp                  = 179.8
>>>>>>     gen_seed                  = 712349
>>>>>>     DispCorr                  =no;  EnerPres    ; account for cut-off
>>>>>> vdW
>>>>>> scheme
>>>>>>     constraints               = all-bonds   ; all bonds constrained
>>>>>> (fixed
>>>>>> length)
>>>>>>     continuation              = no         ; Restarting after NPT
>>>>>>     constraint-algorithm      =  lincs       ; holonomic constraints
>>>>>>     lincs_iter                = 1           ; accuracy of LINCS
>>>>>>     lincs_order               = 4           ; also related to accuracy
>>>>>> Best regards
>>>>>>
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