[gmx-developers] Ideologically biased quotes

David van der Spoel spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se
Wed Dec 7 13:28:09 CET 2016


On 07/12/16 13:19, Erik Lindahl wrote:
> ... and a couple of other things I've thought about, but not acted on yet:
>
> 1) Should we remove all non-English quotes (Maybe German/French is OK
> too)? Gromacs has become a large and international project, and since I
> don't think it would be very productive to add quotes in another ~20
> small languages, maybe we shouldn't have any Swedish ones either.
>
> 2)  Avoid jokes that depend too much on context (i.e., having been at
> the talk) such as dropping a letter. While it might be fun to remember
> for the few who were there, most other users probably won't understand
> why it's fun.
>
> 3) We have some historical quotes from rock music that I think we should
> keep, but for new ones I'd suggest we hold them to the same standard as
> other quotes - i.e., they should be related to
> science/engineering/programming.
>

As said let's not reiterate the whole discussion again. Maybe the time 
for quotes is over in the post-factual world and we can just remove them 
altogether.

Someone that is interested can make a wikipedia page listing gromacs 
quotes to document them for posterity.

> Cheers,
>
> Erik
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Erik Lindahl <erik.lindahl at gmail.com
> <mailto:erik.lindahl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Hi Vedran,
>
>     Partly agree. There are a couple of recent purely political quotes
>     that should probably go; I have no particular interest in staying
>     'neutral', but I think it's a reasonable requirement that there
>     should be a direct connection to science/engineering/programming -
>     otherwise we might soon end up with a torrent of quotes that are
>     completely unrelated to what we do, and that would be a shame.
>
>     On the other hand, I don't want us to be too touchy either, but in
>     particular when it comes to contentious topics it's probably a good
>     idea to consider adding a couple of jokes from both points-of-view
>     rather than pushing your own ideas. Personally I think it would be
>     pretty fun to have a couple of pro-religion jokes about science, but
>     I haven't been very good at finding them :-)
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Erik
>
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Erik
>
>
>
>     On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Vedran Miletić <vedran at miletic.net
>     <mailto:vedran at miletic.net>> wrote:
>
>         Hello,
>
>         I say the following in a very calm voice, just as a suggestion,
>         since I
>         expect it to be a charged topic.
>
>         Could we in the future avoid including ideologically biased quotes
>         promoting either side of whatever is the current (or eternal)
>         debate in
>         society? I would much prefer if GROMACS was neutral on all issues
>         unrelated to science and software development.
>
>         Thanks in advance.
>
>         Vedran
>
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