[gmx-developers] Ideologically biased quotes

[Berk Hess]

On 12/07/2016 01:27 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:
> On 07/12/16 13:19, Erik Lindahl wrote:
>> ... and a couple of other things I've thought about, but not acted on 
>> yet:
>>
>> 1) Should we remove all non-English quotes (Maybe German/French is OK
>> too)? Gromacs has become a large and international project, and since I
>> don't think it would be very productive to add quotes in another ~20
>> small languages, maybe we shouldn't have any Swedish ones either.
>>
>> 2)  Avoid jokes that depend too much on context (i.e., having been at
>> the talk) such as dropping a letter. While it might be fun to remember
>> for the few who were there, most other users probably won't understand
>> why it's fun.
>>
>> 3) We have some historical quotes from rock music that I think we should
>> keep, but for new ones I'd suggest we hold them to the same standard as
>> other quotes - i.e., they should be related to
>> science/engineering/programming.
>>
>
> As said let's not reiterate the whole discussion again. Maybe the time 
> for quotes is over in the post-factual world and we can just remove 
> them altogether.
Isn't the post-factual world all about quotes?

I like the quotes, since they often make me laugh, so I (and several 
colleagues I know of) would not like to see them go. I don't know about 
the community at large though.
I don't have strong opinions on rules, apart from avoiding 
self-censorship. Erik's suggestions sound reasonable to me.

Cheers,

Berk

> Someone that is interested can make a wikipedia page listing gromacs 
> quotes to document them for posterity.
>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Erik
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Erik Lindahl <erik.lindahl at gmail.com
>> <mailto:erik.lindahl at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Vedran,
>>
>>     Partly agree. There are a couple of recent purely political quotes
>>     that should probably go; I have no particular interest in staying
>>     'neutral', but I think it's a reasonable requirement that there
>>     should be a direct connection to science/engineering/programming -
>>     otherwise we might soon end up with a torrent of quotes that are
>>     completely unrelated to what we do, and that would be a shame.
>>
>>     On the other hand, I don't want us to be too touchy either, but in
>>     particular when it comes to contentious topics it's probably a good
>>     idea to consider adding a couple of jokes from both points-of-view
>>     rather than pushing your own ideas. Personally I think it would be
>>     pretty fun to have a couple of pro-religion jokes about science, but
>>     I haven't been very good at finding them :-)
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Erik
>>
>>
>>     Cheers,
>>
>>     Erik
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Wed, Dec 7, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Vedran Miletić <vedran at miletic.net
>>     <mailto:vedran at miletic.net>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hello,
>>
>>         I say the following in a very calm voice, just as a suggestion,
>>         since I
>>         expect it to be a charged topic.
>>
>>         Could we in the future avoid including ideologically biased 
>> quotes
>>         promoting either side of whatever is the current (or eternal)
>>         debate in
>>         society? I would much prefer if GROMACS was neutral on all 
>> issues
>>         unrelated to science and software development.
>>
>>         Thanks in advance.
>>
>>         Vedran
>>
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>>     Erik Lindahl <erik.lindahl at gmail.com 
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>>     Professor of Biophysics, Dept. Biochemistry & Biophysics, Stockholm
>>     University
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>> Erik Lindahl <erik.lindahl at gmail.com <mailto:erik.lindahl at gmail.com>>
>> Professor of Biophysics, Dept. Biochemistry & Biophysics, Stockholm
>> University
>> Science for Life Laboratory, Box 1031, 17121 Solna, Sweden
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