[gmx-users] a problem,Thank you

Maik Goette mgoette at mpi-bpc.mpg.de
Mon Jan 21 09:44:36 CET 2008


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jdy19862002 at 126.com wrote:
>  
>  I use ffamber94 in gromacs,and I also use spc water model
> However,I get wrong information when I am running grompp
> 
> Fatal error:
> [ file "/usr/local/gromacs/share/gromacs/top/spc.itp", line 41 ]:
>              Atom index (1) in settles out of bounds (1-0)
> 
> I don't know how to solve it ,please help me
> 
> Thank you!!!
> 
> 
> 
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>        1. source code change (avinash kumar)
>        2. Re: source code change (David van der Spoel)
>        3. Re: GMX CPMD K+ ion problem  (ggroenh)
>        4. Re: problem regarding grompp (kinshuk at chem.iitb.ac.in)
>        5. Re: problem regarding grompp (Mark Abraham)
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>     Message: 1
>     Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:01:01 +0530
>     From: "avinash kumar" <avinashk.iit.kgp at gmail.com>
>     Subject: [gmx-users] source code change
>     To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
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>     Hello all,
> 
>     Thank you Xavier for your reply. I will explain why I want to change
>     the source code. I have to implement a modified Lennard Jones
>     potential,
> 
>                  ⎧
>                  ⎪
>                  ⎨ 4 *epsilon{( _σ_ )^12 − (_σ_ )^6} − VLJ (rc ), r ≤ rc ,
>                                         r                 r
> 
>     V (r) =
>                  ⎪
>                  ⎩ 0,                              r > rc ,
> 
>     The original Lennard Jones potential has no -VLJ(rc) term. This means
>     I want to subtract some constant from the Lennard Jones potential
>     which the GROMACS will calculate. Please tell me where in the GROMACS
>     source code should I make a change so that it will be implemented.
>     Afterwards will I need to compile it again?
> 
>     Thanks in advance,
>     Avinash
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 2
>     Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 16:34:18 +0100
>     From: David van der Spoel <spoel at xray.bmc.uu.se>
>     Subject: Re: [gmx-users] source code change
>     To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
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>     avinash kumar wrote:
>     > Hello all,
>     > 
>     > Thank you Xavier for your reply. I will explain why I want to change
>     > the source code. I have to implement a modified Lennard Jones
>     > potential,
>     > 
>     >              ?
>     >              ?
>     >              ? 4 *epsilon{( _?_ )^12 - (_?_ )^6} - VLJ (rc ), r ? rc ,
>     >                                     r                 r
>     > 
>     > V (r) =
>     >              ?
>     >              ? 0,                              r > rc ,
>     > 
>     > The original Lennard Jones potential has no -VLJ(rc) term. This means
>     > I want to subtract some constant from the Lennard Jones potential
>     > which the GROMACS will calculate. Please tell me where in the GROMACS
>     > source code should I make a change so that it will be implemented.
>     > Afterwards will I need to compile it again?
>     > 
>     Why not use one of the built-in shift potentials? This change will have 
>     no effect on the dynamics and only add a constant to the overall energy.
>     Another alternative is to use a tabulated potential.
> 
> 
>     > Thanks in advance,
>     > Avinash
>     > 
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>     Message: 3
>     Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2008 19:49:58 +0100
>     From: ggroenh <ggroenh at gwdg.de>
>     Subject: [gmx-users] Re: GMX CPMD K+ ion problem 
>     To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
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>     >
> 
>     Before step 1, gromacs outputs the number of atoms per QM layer, e.g.
> 
>     Reading file topol.tpr, VERSION 3.3_rc3 (single precision)
>     QM/MM calculation requested.
>     Layer 0
>     nr of QM atoms 20
>     QMlevel: CASSCF/3-21G,CASelectrons=6,CASorbitals=6
> 
> 
>     How much are there in your simulaiton? This might tell if it goes  
>     wrong in gromacs side, or in cpmd.
> 
>     Gerrit
> 
> 
>     > We pointed qm group in index .
>     > ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
>     > [ QM ]
>     >  17   50  147  180  310  343  440  473 489
>     > ...........................
>     > and mdp,
>     > ............
>     > ; OPTIONS FOR QMMM calculations
>     > QMMM                     = yes
>     > ; Groups treated Quantum Mechanically
>     > QMMM-grps                = QM
>     > ; QM method
>     > QMmethod                 = CPMD
>     > ; QMMM scheme
>     > QMMMscheme               = normal
>     > ; QM basisset
>     > QMbasis                  = STO-3G
>     > ; QM charge
>     > QMcharge                 = 1
>     > .........
>     >
>     > CPMD_inp.tmpl:
>     > .......
>     > &ATOMS
>     > *O_VDB_BLYP.psp FORMATTED
>     > LMAX=P
>     > *K_VDB_BLYP.psp FORMATTED
>     > LMAX=P LOCAL=S
>     > .......
>     >
>     > All these gives such CPMD_inp.run
>     > .............
>     > &ATOMS
>     > *O_VDB_BLYP.psp FORMATTED
>     > LMAX=P
>     > 8
>     >  14.8440376    8.2394453   13.9464178
>     >  10.7622295    7.4646576    9.5055617
>     >   7.7575652   10.3370411   13.7574452
>     >  11.9716541   12.9448630   16.9321848
>     >  12.6519555   17.0644656   12.7936849
>     >   8.1544076   15.0802534   10.3559384
>     >  12.5952637   12.5102260    6.8410481
>     >  17.0739143   12.9448630    9.8079179
>     > &END
>     > ..............
>     >
>     > Potassium (9th atom) just skipped.
>     > Any clue?
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > On Jan 18, 2008 7:23 PM, Marius Retegan <marius.s.retegan at gmail.com>  
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >> For the Gromacs-CPMD interface you have to specify the QM groups in  
>     >> your
>     >> .mdp file like this "QMMM-grps                = QM_part". Then open  
>     >> your
>     >> index file and create an atom group with the same name "QM_part"  
>     >> and add in
>     >> it all atoms that you want to treat with CPMD.
>     >> If this doesn't work you should send to the list a output of you
>     >> calculation.
>     >> Marius Retegan
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> On Jan 18, 2008 12:25 PM, Andrey V Golovin < golovin at belozersky.msu.ru 
>     >> >
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Dear all,
>     >>> We successfully passed all examples in GMX-CPMD and some other stuff
>     >>> with amberff with common atoms, but since we trying to deal with K+
>     >>> (potassium)  in QM  part, we see every time absence of potassium in
>     >>> CPMD_inp.run, it's just skipped. In very beginning CPMD shows  
>     >>> right number
>     >>> of atoms in QM group, but K is not mentioned in cpmd input file.
>     >>>
>     >>> Potassium and pseudopotential was included in CPMD_inp.tmpl.
>     >>> We checked different ways of including Potassium in ff, like  
>     >>> amber_XX or
>     >>> just K+.
>     >>> Pseudopotential was build with Ultrasoft Pseudopotential Package.
>     >>> Gmx-cpmd was compiled from site P. K. Biswas.
>     >>>
>     >>> Any ideas?
>     >>> Thanks in advance, Andrey
>     >>>
>     >>> --
>     >>> Best regards, Andrey
>     >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >>>
>     >>> Andrey V. Golovin
>     >>> Ph.D, Assistant professor   tel: +7 (495) 939-5305
>     >>> Bioengineering and
>     >>> Bioinformatics Department
>     >>> Moscow State University     fax: +7 (495) 939-3181
>     >>> 119992 Moscow                 E-mail: golovin at genebee.msu.su
>     >>> Russia                              web: http://rnp-group.genebee.msu.su
>     >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>
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>     Message: 4
>     Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 09:27:54 +0530 (IST)
>     From: kinshuk at chem.iitb.ac.in
>     Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem regarding grompp
>     To: "Discussion list for GROMACS users" <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
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>      Thanks for giving me insight to resolve the problem regarding grompp.
>     Now i came across new problem regarding energy minimization
>     MDRUN(mdrun)step while giving this command to command prompt.
>     {mdrun -v -s em.tpr -o em.trr -e em.edr -c after_em.gro -g emlog.log }
>     I came across this problem which i am mentioning below.
> 
> 
>     Reading file em.tpr, VERSION 3.3.1 (single precision)
>     Loaded with Money
> 
> 
>     Back Off! I just backed up em.edr to ./#em.edr.2#
>     Steepest Descents:
>        Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+02
>        Number of steps    =         4000
>     -------------------------------------------------------1.31850e+12, atom=
>     1924
>     Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
>     Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226
> 
>     Range checking error:
>     Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
>     based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
>     errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some
>     coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
>     put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
>     Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
>     energy seems reasonable before trying again.
> 
>     Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been within [ 0 .. 216 ]
>     Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users at gromacs.org)
>     -------------------------------------------------------
> 
>     What should be problem? I am attaching  emergy minimization em.mdp file.
>     For getting insight about i will be thankful to you.
>     KINSHUK
> 
> 
> 
> 
>     > kinshuk at chem.iitb.ac.in wrote:
>     >> Hi all,
>     >>  I have been trying to simulate peptide (octa alanine). In genbox i have
>     >> inserted 40 molecule of guanidium ion & 800 water molecule (by -ci &
>     >> maxsol option in gromacs 3.3.3)then again with genbox i added 40
>     >> molecules of thiocynate ion & 80 water molecules as above mentioned way.
>     >> When i tried to do grompp for energy minimization i was encountered with
>     >> many warning listed below though i have included the *.itp files of both
>     >> ions in the topology *.top file of peptide.I need some insight about
>     >> this
>     >> so that i can resolve this problem.
>     >>
>     >> I have attached the em.mdp file along with this mail.
>     >
>     > This is not the problem, but your T-coupling groups aren't useful. See
>     > http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/thermostats
>     >
>     >> If i will be getting help i'll be thankful for you.
>     >
>     > The order of molecules in your .top files [ molecules ] section probably
>     > doesn't match the order of molecules in your structure file. See chapter
>     > 5 of the GROMACS manual if you don't understand this.
>     >
>     > Mark
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>     ;
>     ;	Input file
>     ;
>     title               =  Octamer			; a string
>     cpp                 =  /lib/cpp			; c-preprocessor
>     define              =  -DFLEX_SPC
>     dt                  =  0.002			; time step
>     integrator          =  steep 
>     nsteps              =  4000			; number of steps
>     nstcomm             =  1			; reset c.o.m. motion
>     nstxout             =  2000			; write coords
>     nstvout             =  50			; write velocities
>     nstlog		    =  50			; print to logfile
>     nstenergy           =  50			; print energies
>     energygrps          =  System
>     nstlist             =  10			; update pairlist
>     ns_type             =  grid
>     constraint_algorithm      =  shake
>     shake_tol           = 0.0001
>     coulombtype         =  PME
>     vdwtype             =  shift
>     rlist               =  1.4			; cut-off for ns
>     rvdw                =  1.4
>     rvdw_switch	    =  0.8
>     rcoulomb            =  1.4
>     rcoulomb_switch	    =  0.8
>     tcoupl              =  berendsen		; temperature bath (yes,no)
>     ref_t		    =  298 
>     tc_grps             =  Protein 
>     tau_t		    =  0.1
>     Pcoupl              =  no
>     tau_p               =  0.5
>     ref_p               =  1.0 
>     gen_vel             =  yes			; generate initial velocities
>     gen_temp            =  298			; initial temperature
>     gen_seed            =  173529			; random seed
>     emtol               =  100
>     emstep              =  0.01
> 
>     ------------------------------
> 
>     Message: 5
>     Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:02:45 +1100
>     From: Mark Abraham <Mark.Abraham at anu.edu.au>
>     Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem regarding grompp
>     To: Discussion list for GROMACS users <gmx-users at gromacs.org>
>     Message-ID: <4792D5F5.1080202 at anu.edu.au>
>     Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
>     kinshuk at chem.iitb.ac.in wrote:
>     >  Thanks for giving me insight to resolve the problem regarding grompp.
>     > Now i came across new problem regarding energy minimization
> 
>     Please start a new email thread for a new problem. The subject line is 
>     your best chance to attract someone who can help you, so make it 
>     succint, relevant and informative.
> 
>     > MDRUN(mdrun)step while giving this command to command prompt.
>     > {mdrun -v -s em.tpr -o em.trr -e em.edr -c after_em.gro -g emlog.log }
>     > I came across this problem which i am mentioning below.
>     > 
>     > 
>     > Reading file em.tpr, VERSION 3.3.1 (single precision)
>     > Loaded with Money
>     > 
>     > 
>     > Back Off! I just backed up em.edr to ./#em.edr.2#
>     > Steepest Descents:
>     >    Tolerance (Fmax)   =  1.00000e+02
>     >    Number of steps    =         4000
>     > -------------------------------------------------------1.31850e+12, atom=
>     > 1924
>     > Program mdrun, VERSION 3.3.1
>     > Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226
>     > 
>     > Range checking error:
>     > Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
>     > based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter
>     > errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some
>     > coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
>     > put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
>     > Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential
>     > energy seems reasonable before trying again.
>     > 
>     > Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been within [ 0 .. 216 ]
>     > Please report this to the mailing list (gmx-users at gromacs.org)
>     > -------------------------------------------------------
>     > 
>     > What should be problem? I am attaching  emergy minimization em.mdp file.
> 
>     This is symptomatic of the kinds of problems discussed here... 
>     http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/blowing_up
> 
>     Because grompp returned you a .tpr file, your topology may have been 
>     well-formed. You should run grompp again and pay particular attention to 
>     any warnings it gives you. Even if it doesn't warn you about anything, 
>     the odds are excellent that despite being well-formed grammatically, the 
>     contents of your .top file lead to nonsense physics. Then large force on 
>     atoms can cause the above symptoms in EM.
> 
>     You should check your topology carefully, consulting with Chapter 5 of 
>     the manual where you need to. Break the structure & topology up into 
>     manageable chunks, and try an EM on an isolated molecule of each type to 
>       see which bit of the topology is broken.
> 
>     Mark
> 
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