[gmx-users] Simulated annealing

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Tue Mar 10 21:00:20 CET 2009



jayant james wrote:
> Hi!
> So the part of my pr.mdp files that handles pressure and temperature 
> looks like as below and if I were to create an index file by name 
> "N-extension" an type it next in the tc-grps as N-extension along with 
> the existing Protein Non-Protein groups is this how I get to handle the 
> simulated annealing for the appended NMR group?

Not likely, because Protein probably includes these residues.  Two special 
groups would (theoretically) be needed, your N-extension, then whatever is left 
of your protein.  Try it and see.

-Justin

> Thanks
> Jayant James
>  
> 
> ; Berendsen temperature coupling is on in two groups
> 
> Tcoupl = berendsen
> 
> tc-grps = Protein Non-Protein
> 
> tau_t =       0.1      0.1
> 
> ref_t =       300      300
> 
> ; Energy monitoring
> 
> energygrps =      Protein      Non-Protein
> 
> ; Pressure coupling is not on
> 
> Pcoupl = parrinello-rahman
> 
> tau_p = 0.5
> 
> compressibility = 4.5e-5
> 
> ref_p = 1.0
> 
> 
> On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 4:33 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     jayant james wrote:
> 
>         Hi!
> 
>         I have appended the NMR structure to a part of the protein that
>         was not resolved to the protein and now I want to perform
>         simulated annealing of the 40 amino acids (NMR structure had 33
>         amino acids and to link I needed another 7 aa) that have been
>         thrown into the crystal structure. I am new to this simulated
>         annealing procedure. So please help me out as how to write out a
>         typical pr.mdp file. I am thinking of increasing the temp of the
>         appended piece protein piece to about 10000K (while the rest of
>         the protein, solvent, Na+ and Cl- are at 300K) and slowly bring
>         the temperature down to 300K, say, in about 100 ps and then
>         continue to perform MD simulations.
> 
> 
>     Running a protein segment at 10000 K with solvent at 300 K will
>     probably lead to some wild behavior of that protein segment, clashes
>     with the solvent, and possibly an explosion of your system.  Just
>     thinking ahead...
> 
> 
>         1) So would it be the wise time to apply distance constraints
>         from the protein at 300K to the appended peptide while
>         performing simulated annealing?
> 
> 
>     If you have actual NMR data, perhaps.  But attempting to simulate at
>     10000 K while simultaneously applying distance restraints might be a
>     difficult task (consider a lower temperature).
> 
> 
>         2) If so what would be a good temperature to set it to kick in?
>         I am really confused as to how I am going to specify these 40
>         residues to be the group that needs to be heated up.
> 
> 
>     Warm it up from some low temperature.  There is an example at:
> 
>     http://www.gromacs.org/documentation/reference_4.0/online/mdp_opt.html#sa
> 
>     If you want a separate temperature coupling group, make a special
>     index group for it.  No idea if that will actually work, but that's
>     how you treat components of your system differently, in general.
> 
> 
>         3) Usually I have tc-grps specified in pr.mdp as Protein and
>         Non-Protein. So how would I go about setting up the temperature
>         groups during the simulated annealing protocol?
> 
> 
>     With the special index group.  See #2.
> 
>     -Justin
> 
>         Thanks
>         JJ
> 
> 
> 
>          On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:47 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>         <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>         <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>            jayant james wrote:
> 
>                Hi!
>                I have a question with regard to a system that I am
>         attempting
>                to model.
>                The N-terminal of chain of the protein was not resolved
>                crystallographically but was later solved by NMR.
>                Now my plan is to append the NMR structure on to chain A
>         of the
>                protein and perform simulated annealing only for the appended
>                NMR fragment. To help it find it biologically relevent
>                orientation in the system I could also apply distance
>         restraints
>                that I have.
>                Is this possible in Gromacs?
> 
> 
>            All except that actual construction part (modeling the two
>         segments
>            together), yes.
> 
>            -Justin
> 
>                thanks
>                JJ
> 
> 
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Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
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