[gmx-users] Density Differences

Kavyashree M hmkvsri at gmail.com
Wed Apr 13 14:48:04 CEST 2011


The original paper (J. Chern. Phys., Vol. 79, No.2, 15 July 1983)
stated a density of 0.999g/cc at 298K and 1atm, which is nowhere
close to the value i have got. (1.025g/cc). or is this value tolerable?


On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Kavyashree M wrote:
>
>> I am sorry I did not include it in the mail: i used the following:
>>
>> pcoupl                  = Parrinello_Rahman    pcoupltype              =
>> isotropic            tau_p                   = 2.0
>>  compressibility         = 4.5e-5        ref_p                   = 1.0
>>
>> I agree that density of water is different  depending on the model used,
>> so for tip4p water what is the range of fluctuations accepted? So that
>> we can conclude that the difference is not due to any other reason but
>> the water model used.
>>
>>
> The extent of fluctuation in any pressure-related term depends on the size
> of your system and several of the .mdp settings.
>
> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Pressure
>
> For the actual target value of TIP4P density, refer to the literature.  The
> TIP4P citation is provided in the Gromacs manual.
>
> -Justin
>
>  Thanking you
>> With regards
>> Kavya
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Kavyashree M wrote:
>>
>>        Dear gromacs users,
>>         I am trying to simulate a 225aa protein at 300K in water,
>>        with OPLSAA force filed, tip4p water model, using the
>>        parameters below (for pressure equilibration) during
>>
>>
>>    You're not doing NPT.  You haven't specified pcoupl or any of the
>>    other relevant parameters, so you're doing NVT.
>>
>>
>>        position restrained md.
>>
>>        integrator              = md                  dt
>>           = 0.002                nsteps                  = 50000
>>      nstcomm                 = 10               nstlist
>>    = 5                  ns_type                 = grid                  pbc
>>                     = xyz             rlist                          = 1.40
>>        coulombtype             = PME  rcoulomb                = 1.40
>>      vdwtype                 = Switch           rvdw_switch
>>    = 0.9              rvdw                    = 1.00
>>  fourierspacing          = 0.12              pme_order
>>  = 4                  ewald_rtol              = 1e-5
>>  optimize_fft            = yes Tcoupl                         = nose-hoover
>>       tc_grps                 = Protein  Non-Protein
>>        tau_t                   = 0.4      0.4         ref_t
>>            = 300      300        nh-chain-length         = 1
>>  gen_vel                 = no     continuation            = yes
>>  constraints             = all-bonds
>>        constraint-algorithm    = LINCS
>>        lincs-order             = 4            lincs-iter              =
>>        1               lincs-warnangle         = 30
>>        when I calculate the densities, the average came out to be
>>        1025.91 kg/m^3,
>>        Could anyone please clarify me the reason for this density.
>>
>>
>>    Simulating with the right ensemble (NPT) will equilibrate the
>>    pressure and thus density.  As a fundamental point, please also
>>    realize that each water model has its own (different) expected
>>    density value, which is also influenced somewhat by the remaining
>>    contents of the system.  Therefore, the result you obtain may not be
>>    in exact agreement with experimental bulk density of water.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>
>>        Thanking you
>>        With regards
>>        Kavya
>>
>>
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