[gmx-users] non-integer charge in a protein setup using pdb2gmx AND slow simulations in vacuum v. 4.5.3

Justin A. Lemkul jalemkul at vt.edu
Thu Jan 20 23:50:18 CET 2011



maria goranovic wrote:
> Gee. My mistake then. I did not realize the difference between -COO and 
> Zwitterion_COO-.
> 
> However, when I use the zwitterion termini on both ends of the other 
> chain, the total charge is 4.010, which is also *slightly*´ disturbing. 
> I have seen numbers like 2.999999, which are still better. Is 4.010 
> acceptable within rounding off errors?
> 

Nothing greater than 0.0001 or so should be considered a rounding problem.  With 
0.01, you have another problem.

-Justin

> thank you for helping
> 
> -Maria
> 
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu 
> <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>     maria goranovic wrote:
> 
>         I did use -ter and chose -COO and NH3+. Am i supposed to chose
>         Zwitterion_COO- and Zwitterion_NH3+ ?
> 
> 
>     That's what I said, and that's what you have, isn't it?  A single
>     amino acid that should have both its termini charged?
> 
>     -Justin
> 
>         On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>         <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>         <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>            maria goranovic wrote:
> 
>                Hi
> 
>                I have figured out the vacuum slow problem. It turns out
>         I was
>                using PBC in vacuum with PME. It is now fixed.
> 
>                The other problem is still there. My protein has 2
>         chains. one
>                chain is simply a glutamate residue. Its charge (both
>         terminii
>                charged is -1.11 instead of -1). here is the section of the
>                topology with the charges. Why does pdb2gmx assign a
>         charge of
>                -1.11 instead of -1 if there is a free glutamate molecule
>         with
>                NH3+ and COO- at the terminii ?
> 
> 
>            You're not choosing the termini correctly.  Use -ter with pdb2gmx
>            and select the zwitterion forms of both termini.
> 
>            -Justin
> 
> 
>                    1   opls_287    484    GLU      N      1       -0.3  
>                 14.0067   ; qtot -0.3
>                    2   opls_290    484    GLU     H1      1       0.33  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.03
>                    3   opls_290    484    GLU     H2      1       0.33  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.36
>                    4   opls_290    484    GLU     H3      1       0.33  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.69
>                    5   opls_283    484    GLU     CA      1       0.04  
>                  12.011   ; qtot 0.73
>                    6   opls_140    484    GLU     HA      1       0.06  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.79
>                    7   opls_136    484    GLU     CB      2      -0.12  
>                  12.011   ; qtot 0.67
>                    8   opls_140    484    GLU    HB1      2       0.06  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.73
>                    9   opls_140    484    GLU    HB2      2       0.06  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.79
>                   10   opls_274    484    GLU     CG      3      -0.22  
>                  12.011   ; qtot 0.57
>                   11   opls_140    484    GLU    HG1      3       0.06  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.63
>                   12   opls_140    484    GLU    HG2      3       0.06  
>                   1.008   ; qtot 0.69
>                   13   opls_271    484    GLU     CD      4        0.7  
>                  12.011   ; qtot 1.39
>                   14   opls_272    484    GLU    OE1      4       -0.8  
>                 15.9994   ; qtot 0.59
>                   15   opls_272    484    GLU    OE2      4       -0.8  
>                 15.9994   ; qtot -0.21
>                   16   opls_271    484    GLU      C      5        0.7  
>                  12.011   ; qtot 0.49
>                   17   opls_272    484    GLU     O1      5       -0.8  
>                 15.9994   ; qtot -0.31
>                   18   opls_272    484    GLU     O2      5       -0.8  
>                 15.9994   ; qtot -1.11
> 
> 
> 
>                On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Mark Abraham
>                <mark.abraham at anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>
>         <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>>
>                <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>         <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>
>                <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au
>         <mailto:mark.abraham at anu.edu.au>>>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>                   On 01/20/11, *maria goranovic *
>         <mariagoranovic at gmail.com <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com>
>                <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com
>         <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com>>
>                   <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com
>         <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com>
> 
>                <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com
>         <mailto:mariagoranovic at gmail.com>>>> wrote:
> 
>                       Hi
> 
>                       I have a protein whose topology I built using pdb2gmx
>                    with the -ss
>                       option and the opls-aa force field. When I run grompp,
>                    the total
>                       charge on the protein is reported as 2.9 (not
>         2.999). Why a
>                       non-zero charge? Does this have something to do
>         with the
>                    disulfide
>                       bridge?
> 
> 
>                   Something is materially wrong, like mangled termini.
>         Have a
>                look at
>                   the resulting structure.
> 
> 
>                       Secondly, when I run a simulation of the same protein
>                    (7000 atoms)
>                       with certain restraints in vacuum, the simulation runs
>                    very slow.
>                       I am wondering why. I am not using particle
>                    decomposition. the box
>                       size is 50 x 50 x 50 nm. Using 4.5.3
> 
> 
>                   Have a look at the end of the .log file for some
>         performance
>                data.
>                   How are you assessing "very slow"?
> 
>                   Mark
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Justin A. Lemkul
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ICTAS Doctoral Scholar
MILES-IGERT Trainee
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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