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Sara baretller sarabiocomputation at gmail.com
Tue Jul 26 22:49:01 CEST 2011


thanks but i want to neutralize the system , why genion -s file.tpr -conc
0.2 -neutral -o file.gro -random  does not neutralize the system to 0 .


On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 3:48 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Sara baretller wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> this a part of the md.log  where the system has -50 charge
>>
>>  two-body bonded interactions: 0.407 nm, Bond, atoms 514 515
>>  multi-body bonded interactions: 0.731 nm, G96Angle, atoms 1272 1275
>> Minimum cell size due to bonded interactions: 0.804 nm
>> Maximum distance for 9 constraints, at 120 deg. angles, all-trans: 0.810
>> nm
>> Estimated maximum distance required for P-LINCS: 0.810 nm
>> This distance will limit the DD cell size, you can override this with
>> -rcon
>> Optimizing the DD grid for 4 cells with a minimum initial size of 0.810 nm
>> The maximum allowed number of cells is: X 11 Y 11 Z 11
>> Domain decomposition grid 4 x 1 x 1, separate PME nodes 0
>> Domain decomposition nodeid 0, coordinates 0 0 0
>>
>> Table routines are used for coulomb: TRUE
>> Table routines are used for vdw:     TRUE
>> Using shifted Lennard-Jones, switch between 0.9 and 1.2 nm
>> Cut-off's:   NS: 1.2   Coulomb: 1.2   LJ: 1.2
>> System total charge: -50.000
>> Generated table with 1100 data points for Shift.
>> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
>> Generated table with 1100 data points for LJ6Shift.
>> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
>> Generated table with 1100 data points for LJ12Shift.
>> Tabscale = 500 points/nm
>> Configuring nonbonded kernels...
>> Configuring standard C nonbonded kernels...
>> Testing ia32 SSE2 support... present
>>
>>
> There's nothing abnormal here.  genion reports that it finds a -50 charge
> on the system.  That's what it's supposed to do.  Based on what it finds in
> the topology, it adds neutralizing ions and any additional ions to reach the
> specified concentration.  You only have a problem if grompp later complains
> that there's still some residual charge (excluding tiny rounding
> discrepancies).
>
> -Justin
>
>  On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:18 PM, Justin A. Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu<mailto:
>> jalemkul at vt.edu>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>    Sara baretller wrote:
>>
>>        Hi All
>>
>>        I used the genion command using like this "genion -s file.tpr
>>        -conc 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro -random "  again and i checked
>>        the md.log file and it says that the net charge is negative like
>>        it was before using the genion command.
>>
>>        so can anybody tell me what is wrong with the line  genion -s
>>        file.tpr -conc 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro -random .
>>
>>
>>    Please copy and paste the exact (pertinent) output from the log file.
>>
>>    -Justin
>>
>>        Sara
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>        On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:05 PM, Justin A. Lemkul
>>        <jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>
>>        <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu <mailto:jalemkul at vt.edu>>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>           Sara baretller wrote:
>>
>>               Hi all
>>
>>               I used the genion to add a concentration and to neutalize
>> the
>>               system in the same time by using the
>>
>>                    *genion -s file.tpr -conc 0.2 -neutral -o file.gro
>>        -random
>>                    so it did add the NA and Cl but it did not
>>        neutralize the
>>               system, the net charge of the system still the same
>> negative.
>>
>>
>>           I find this hard to believe.  The application of genion -conc
>>           -neutral has worked in every instance I've tried it along every
>>           Gromacs version.  Check your output again.
>>
>>
>>                    so i tried to use the genion seperate to neutralize the
>>               charge using the file.tpr and out file as the file.gro,
>>                 however it reset the file.gro and i lose the NA And
>>        CL ions
>>               added for the concentration.
>>
>>
>>           Without the actual sequence of commands, this is not a useful
>>           description. genion adds ions based on whatever it finds in
>>        the .tpr
>>           file (which is presumably not neutralized).  If you do not
>>        re-create
>>           a .tpr file in between different additions of ions, you're
>>        going to
>>           be undoing work you thought you did.
>>
>>           -Justin
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