[gmx-users] Gentle heating with implicit solvent

Gianluca Interlandi gianluca at u.washington.edu
Tue Nov 5 18:41:57 CET 2013


I wonder whether increasing the surface tension parameter 
sa-surface-tension might solve the problem with the protein unfolding.

Thanks,

      Gianluca

On Mon, 4 Nov 2013, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:

> Hi Justin,
>
> We are using infinite cutoffs (all vs all). Here is the mdp file for the 
> heating (please note that -DPOSRES is commented out) and the time step is 1 
> fs:
>
> ; VARIOUS PREPROCESSING OPTIONS =
> title                    =
> cpp                      = /lib/cpp
> include                  =
> ;define                   = -DPOSRES
>
> ; RUN CONTROL PARAMETERS =
> integrator               = md
> ; start time and timestep in ps =
> tinit                    = 0
> dt                       = 0.001
> nsteps                   = 200000
> ; mode for center of mass motion removal =
> comm-mode                = Linear
> ; number of steps for center of mass motion removal =
> nstcomm                  = 1
> ; group(s) for center of mass motion removal =
> comm-grps                =
>
> ; LANGEVIN DYNAMICS OPTIONS =
> ; Temperature, friction coefficient (amu/ps) and random seed =
> ;bd-temp                  = 300
> bd-fric                  = 0
> ld_seed                  = 1993
>
> ; IMPLICIT SOLVENT OPTIONS =
> implicit-solvent         = GBSA
> gb-algorithm             = OBC
> rgbradii                 = 0
>
> ; ENERGY MINIMIZATION OPTIONS =
> ; Force tolerance and initial step-size =
> emtol                    = 0.000001
> emstep                   = 0.01
> ; Max number of iterations in relax_shells =
> niter                    = 100
> ; Step size (1/ps^2) for minimization of flexible constraints =
> fcstep                   = 0
> ; Frequency of steepest descents steps when doing CG =
> nstcgsteep               = 1000
>
> ; OUTPUT CONTROL OPTIONS =
> ; Output frequency for coords (x), velocities (v) and forces (f) =
> nstxout                  = 0
> nstvout                  = 0
> nstfout                  = 0
> ; Output frequency for energies to log file and energy file =
> nstlog                   = 100
> nstenergy                = 100
> ; Output frequency and precision for xtc file =
> nstxtcout                = 1000
> xtc_precision            = 1000
> ; This selects the subset of atoms for the xtc file. You can =
> ; select multiple groups. By default all atoms will be written. =
> xtc-grps                 =
> ; Selection of energy groups =
> energygrps               =
>
> ; NEIGHBORSEARCHING PARAMETERS =
> ; nblist update frequency =
> nstlist                  = 0
> ; ns algorithm (simple or grid) =
> ns_type                  = simple
> ; Periodic boundary conditions: xyz or no =
> pbc                      = no
> ; nblist cut-off         =
> rlist                    = 0
> ;rlistlong                = 1.8
> domain-decomposition     = no
>
> ; OPTIONS FOR ELECTROSTATICS AND VDW =
> ; Method for doing electrostatics =
> coulombtype              = Cut-off
> rcoulomb_switch          = 0
> rcoulomb                 = 0
> ; Dielectric constant (DC) for cut-off or DC of reaction field =
> epsilon_r                = 1
> ; Method for doing Van der Waals =
> vdw-type                 = Cut-off
> ; cut-off lengths        =
> rvdw_switch              = 0
> rvdw                     = 0
> ; Apply long range dispersion corrections for Energy and Pressure =
> DispCorr                 = No
> ; Spacing for the PME/PPPM FFT grid =
> fourierspacing           = 0.1
> ; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be used =
> fourier_nx               = 0
> fourier_ny               = 0
> fourier_nz               = 0
> ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters =
> pme_order                = 4
> ewald_rtol               = 1e-05
> ewald_geometry           = 3d
> epsilon_surface          = 0
> optimize_fft             = no
>
> ; OPTIONS FOR WEAK COUPLING ALGORITHMS =
> ; Temperature coupling   =
> Tcoupl                   = V-rescale
> ; Groups to couple separately =
> tc_grps                  = Protein
> ; Time constant (ps) and reference temperature (K) =
> tau_t                    = 0.1
> ref_t                    = 300
> ; Pressure coupling      =
> Pcoupl                   = no
> Pcoupltype               = isotropic
> refcoord_scaling         = All
> ; Time constant (ps), compressibility (1/bar) and reference P (bar) =
> tau_p                    = 1.0
> compressibility          = 4.5e-5
> ref_p                    = 1.0
>
> ; SIMULATED ANNEALING CONTROL =
> annealing                = single
> ; Number of time points to use for specifying annealing in each group
> annealing_npoints         = 21
> ; List of times at the annealing points for each group
> annealing_time            = 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100 110 120 130 140 
> 150 160 170 180 190 200
> ; Temp. at each annealing point, for each group
> annealing_temp            = 5 30 30 60 60 90 90 120 120 150 150 180 180 210 
> 210 240 240 270 270 300 300
>
> ; GENERATE VELOCITIES FOR STARTUP RUN =
> gen_vel                  = yes
> gen_temp                 = 5
> gen_seed                 = 173529
>
> ; OPTIONS FOR BONDS     =
> constraints              = none
> ; Type of constraint algorithm =
> ;constraint_algorithm     = Lincs
> ; Do not constrain the start configuration =
> unconstrained_start      = no
> ; Use successive overrelaxation to reduce the number of shake iterations =
> Shake-SOR                = no
> ; Relative tolerance of shake =
> shake_tol                = 1e-04
> ; Highest order in the expansion of the constraint coupling matrix =
> lincs_order              = 4
> ; Lincs will write a warning to the stderr if in one step a bond =
> ; rotates over more degrees than =
> lincs_warnangle          = 30
> ; Convert harmonic bonds to morse potentials =
> morse                    = no
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2013, Justin Lemkul wrote:
>
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/4/13 2:25 PM, Gianluca Interlandi wrote:
>>> Dear Mark,
>>> 
>>> Sorry for replying to an older thread. We are trying to perform implicit 
>>> solvent
>>> simulations of protein G with CHARMM27 in gromacs. We are trying to 
>>> trouble
>>> shoot why the protein unfolds after already 2 ns of dynamics. We use 
>>> simulated
>>> annealing for the heating with 1 fs time step. The thermostat is v_rescale 
>>> and
>>> OBC is the GBSA algorithm. Do you have any suggestions what we could 
>>> improve?
>>> You mention using a sub-fs time step for the equilibration. Do you still 
>>> use
>>> LINCS? Do you use simulated annealing to heat up the system or do you just 
>>> apply
>>> position restraints to the heavy atoms?
>>> 
>> 
>> A complete .mdp file would be helpful.  Are you using finite cutoffs?
>> 
>> -Justin
>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>       Gianluca
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Mark Abraham wrote:
>>> 
>>>> It can be. Lack of explicit degrees of freedom of solvent can make
>>>> achieving equipartition tricky. With CHARMM27 and virtual sites in 
>>>> implicit
>>>> solvent, I have sometimes found it necessary to use a sub-femtosecond 
>>>> time
>>>> step at the start of equilibration, even where there were no atomic
>>>> clashes. Maybe the system was just unlucky with generating velocities,
>>>> though :-)
>>>> 
>>>> Mark
>>>> On Aug 28, 2013 7:16 AM, "Gianluca Interlandi" 
>>>> <gianluca at u.washington.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> How important is it to do gentle heating (using simulated annealing) 
>>>>> with
>>>>> GBSA? Often with explicit water it is enough to perform some 
>>>>> equilibration
>>>>> with positional restraints. Would it be enough to do the same with 
>>>>> implicit
>>>>> solvent?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>>      Gianluca
>>>>> 
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>>> Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca at u.washington.edu
>>>                      +1 (206) 685 4435
>>>                      http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/
>>> 
>>> Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering
>>> at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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>> 
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>> 
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> -----------------------------------------------------
> Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca at u.washington.edu
>                    +1 (206) 685 4435
>                    http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/
>
> Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering
> at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
> -----------------------------------------------------
>

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Gianluca Interlandi, PhD gianluca at u.washington.edu
                     +1 (206) 685 4435
                     http://artemide.bioeng.washington.edu/

Research Scientist at the Department of Bioengineering
at the University of Washington, Seattle WA U.S.A.
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