[gmx-users] NVE Energy drop in Mixed Precision 4.6.7

Johnny Lu johnny.lu128 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 10 19:38:26 CEST 2014


Well... at that rate, after I run 100 ns, the energy will decrease by 100%.

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 8:27 AM, Mark Abraham <mark.j.abraham at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sure, there's drift. But is it significant? What is its value in units of
> k_B T / dof / ns? How much will such drift affect the quality of your
> observables? Is that more significant than your other approximations (force
> field parameterization targets not matching your observables, no
> polarization, incomplete sampling, lack of replicates)? Is fixing it worth
> the hit of more than a factor of two in number of samples?
>
> It's relatively easy to feel good about solving the one problem that you
> can solve. But only solve it if it's the one that matters ;-)
>
> Mark
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 9:03 PM, Johnny Lu <johnny.lu128 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > here is the energy from nve1.edr
> > http://oi62.tinypic.com/2pqw70l.jpg
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Johnny Lu <johnny.lu128 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi.
> > >
> > > The system has 9000 water and a ~160 aa amino acid and uses
> > amber99SB-ildn.
> > >
> > > After extensive NPT (300ns, 2ns ts), and then NVT equilibrium (300 ns,
> > 2ns
> > > ts), the NVE simulation still has energy drop, despite of the very
> small
> > > time step.
> > >
> > > Is double precision gromacs the only solution?
> > >
> > > The mdp file is:
> > >
> > > title           = NVT equilibration
> > > ; Run parameters
> > > integrator      = md            ; leap-frog integrator
> > > nsteps          = 29500000      ; 1 ns
> > > dt              = 0.0002        ; 0.5 fs
> > >
> > > ;NVE
> > > ;nstcomm         = 500 ; remove center of mass motion to reduce energy
> > and
> > > temp. drift.
> > > shake-tol       = 0.0000001     ; shake tolerance.
> > > verlet-buffer-drift = -1
> > >
> > >
> > > - Output control
> > > ;nstxout         = 20           ; save coordinates every 1.0 ps
> > > ;nstvout         = 4           ; save velocities every 1.0 ps
> > > ;nstfout                = 20
> > > nstenergy       = 20           ; save energies every 1.0 ps
> > >
> > > nstlog          = 1000          ; update log file every 0.2 ps
> > > ; Bond parameters
> > > continuation    = yes           ; Restarting after NVT
> > > constraint_algorithm = lincs    ; holonomic constraints
> > > constraints     = all-bonds     ; all bonds (even heavy atom-H bonds)
> > > constrained
> > > lincs_iter      = 4             ; accuracy of LINCS
> > > lincs_order     = 4             ; also related to accuracy
> > > ; Neighborsearching
> > > ns_type         = grid          ; search neighboring grid cells
> > > nstlist         = 40            ; 10 fs
> > > rlist           = 1.3           ; short-range neighborlist cutoff (in
> nm)
> > > rcoulomb        = 1.0           ; short-range electrostatic cutoff (in
> > nm)
> > > rvdw            = 1.0           ; short-range van der Waals cutoff (in
> > nm)
> > > ; Electrostatics
> > > coulombtype     = PME           ; Particle Mesh Ewald for long-range
> > > electrostatics
> > > pme_order       = 6             ; cubic interpolation
> > > fourierspacing  = 0.1           ; grid spacing for FFT
> > >
> > > ; Temperature coupling is off
> > > tcoupl          = no    ; modified Berendsen thermostat
> > > ; Pressure coupling is off
> > > pcoupl          = no
> > >
> > > refcoord_scaling = com
> > > ; Periodic boundary conditions
> > > pbc             = xyz           ; 3-D PBC
> > > ; Dispersion correction
> > > DispCorr        = EnerPres      ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
> > > ; Velocity generation
> > > gen_vel         = no            ; Velocity generation is off
> > > cutoff-scheme = Verlet
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > >
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