[gmx-users] Osmotic pressure

gozde ergin gozdeeergin at gmail.com
Mon Apr 18 10:43:04 CEST 2016


In Roux study they did 10 independent 1.5 ns production simulation and I did 15 ns simulation and divided it to 10 1.5ns simulations.

Osmotic pressure for 5M : My result 216.8 (+/- 0.2 bar)
                                          Roux study 300    (+/- 10  bar)
                                          Experiment 300 bar
> On 18 Apr 2016, at 10:29, Mark Abraham <mark.j.abraham at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What statistical error do you (and they) measure? How many replicates have
> each of you done?
> 
> Mark
> 
> On Mon, 18 Apr 2016 10:25 gozde ergin <gozdeeergin at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Justin,
>> 
>> I corrected the nonbonded settings as your suggestion ;
>> 
>> ; Bond parameters
>> continuation         = no
>> constraint_algorithm = shake
>> constraints          = h-bonds
>> shake_tol            = 0.0001
>> cutoff-scheme = Verlet
>> vdwtype = cutoff
>> vdw-modifier = force-switch
>> rvdw-switch = 1.0
>> ; Neighborsearching
>> ns_type     = grid
>> nstlist     = 5
>> rlist       = 1.2
>> rcoulomb    = 1.2
>> rvdw        = 1.2
>> 
>> However my osmotic pressure result is still far from the Luo&Roux 2010
>> study.
>> I have the same number of Na Cl ions and water molecules. I run the
>> simulation for 15ns.
>> System size is the same, water model and force field are the same as Roux
>> study.
>> Basically I should get the same result.
>> Here is the result,
>> 
>> Osmotic pressure for 5M : My result 217 bar
>>                                          Roux study ~300 bar
>> 
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> 
>>> On 15 Apr 2016, at 11:50, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 4/15/16 5:20 AM, gozde ergin wrote:
>>>> Dear all,
>>>> 
>>>> I simulate the NaCl solution to estimate the osmotic pressure. My salt
>> concentrations are 3,4 and 5M. I apply flat-bottom restraint to the
>> molecules.
>>>> I use CHARMM36 ff with NBFIX correction.
>>>> 
>>>> After the simulation I extract the z-coordinates of restraint ions and
>> use the equation P = F/A , F= k(zi-zwall), A=area to estimate the osmotic
>> pressure.
>>>> Actually I try to get the similar results as Lou&Roux 2010 study.
>>>> 
>>>> However my osmotic pressure results are on the line of ideal solution
>> osmotic pressure as shown equation in below;
>>>> 
>>>> P = cRT (Van’t Hoff equation)
>>>> 
>>>> but not the similar result with experiments.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> What values do you actually get?  How do they compare with the values
>> from the Roux paper?  Are you remembering to divide by 2*area in your
>> calculation (since you have two walls)?
>>> 
>>>> Is there anyone here that get the same trend as me for osmotic pressure
>> calculation? Or is there something that I miss?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here is my .mdp file;
>>>> 
>>>> define                   = -DPOSRES
>>>> integrator               = md
>>>> dt                       = 0.002
>>>> nsteps                   = 2500000   ;
>>>> ; Output control
>>>> nstxout                  = 2000
>>>> nstvout                  = 2000
>>>> nstlog                   = 2000
>>>> nstenergy                = 2000
>>>> ; Bond parameters
>>>> continuation         = no        ;
>>>> constraint_algorithm = shake     ; h
>>>> constraints          = all-bonds ; a
>>>> shake_tol            = 0.0001
>>>> ; Neighborsearching
>>>> ns_type     = grid              ;
>>>> nstlist     = 5                 ;
>>>> rlist       = 1.1               ;
>>>> rcoulomb    = 1.1               ;
>>>> rvdw        = 1.1               ;
>>> 
>>> These nonbonded settings are wrong.  The values for CHARMM36 are well
>> established and you should not deviate from them.
>>> 
>>> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Force_Fields/CHARMM <
>> http://www.gromacs.org/Documentation/Terminology/Force_Fields/CHARMM>
>>> 
>>> -Justin
>>> 
>>>> ; Electrostatics
>>>> coulombtype     = PME           ;
>>>> pme_order       = 4             ;
>>>> fourierspacing  = 0.16          ;
>>>> 
>>>> tcoupl                   = berendsen
>>>> tc-grps                  = System
>>>> tau_t                    = 1.0
>>>> ref_t                    = 300
>>>> ; Pressure coupling is on
>>>> pcoupl              = Berendsen     ; Pressure coupling on in NPT, also
>> weak coupling
>>>> pcoupltype          = semiisotropic     ; uniform scaling of x-y-z box
>> vectors
>>>> tau_p               = 2.0 2.0          ; time constant, in ps
>>>> ref_p               = 1.0 1.0          ; reference pressure (in bar)
>>>> compressibility     = 0 4.5e-5        ; isothermal compressibility,
>> bar^-1
>>>> refcoord_scaling    = com
>>>> ; Periodic boundary conditions
>>>> pbc     = xyz                   ; 3-D PBC
>>>> ; Dispersion correction
>>>> DispCorr    = EnerPres          ; account for cut-off vdW scheme
>>>> ; Velocity generation
>>>> gen_vel     = yes               ; Velocity generation is on
>>>> gen_temp    = 300               ; temperature for velocity generation
>>>> gen_seed    = -1                ; random seed
>>>> ; COM motion removal
>>>> ; These options remove COM motion of the system
>>>> nstcomm         = 10
>>>> comm-mode       = Linear
>>>> comm-grps       = System
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> ==================================================
>>> 
>>> Justin A. Lemkul, Ph.D.
>>> Ruth L. Kirschstein NRSA Postdoctoral Fellow
>>> 
>>> Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences
>>> School of Pharmacy
>>> Health Sciences Facility II, Room 629
>>> University of Maryland, Baltimore
>>> 20 Penn St.
>>> Baltimore, MD 21201
>>> 
>>> jalemkul at outerbanks.umaryland.edu <mailto:
>> jalemkul at outerbanks.umaryland.edu> | (410) 706-7441
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