[gmx-users] gen-pairs

Alexander Alexander alexanderwien2k at gmail.com
Sat Jun 4 00:40:54 CEST 2016


Thanks, although, each of them is a 2 ns NVT calculation, not a
single-point energy.

By the way, then why does "gmx grompp" shows below when gen-pairs is yes if
no pair is present?

Generating 1-4 interactions: fudge = 0.5
Generated 3 of the 3 1-4 parameter combinations

Best regards,
Alex

On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:

>
>
> On 6/3/16 6:14 PM, Alexander Alexander wrote:
>
>> I have this system in two different states, and I am interested in the
>> difference between total energy of these states, I found out that the
>> result changes when gen-pairs is YES and NO.
>>
>> I mean [ \delta(S1(tot-ene)-S2(tot-ene))(NO) ] is not the same as [
>> \delta(S1(tot-ene)-S2(tot-ene))(YES) ] !?
>>
>>
> That's not a definitive test.  If you do a single-point energy evaluation
> of a given set of coordinates with gen-pairs set to "no" and "yes" and get
> a different answer, something is wrong.  Your topology shows no bonds,
> therefore there can be no 1-4, therefore no pairs.  Pairs are what
> gen-pairs affects.
>
> -Justin
>
>
> Regards,
>> Alex
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:59 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On 6/3/16 5:58 PM, Alexander Alexander wrote:
>>>
>>> Many thanks for your response.
>>>>
>>>> So, do you mean that the "gen-pairs" can be freely NO or YES for this
>>>> system with no change in any of the results?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it's completely irrelevant.
>>>
>>> -Justin
>>>
>>>
>>> The best,
>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 11:03 PM, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 6/3/16 8:49 AM, Alexander Alexander wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Gromacs user,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surprisingly I am wondering why I have no warning while I assigned
>>>>>> "NO"
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the "gen-pairs" in [ default ] section of my .top file, although I
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> no
>>>>>> pair type neither in my .top file nor in ffnonbonded.itp for these
>>>>>> atoms?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pairs are 1-4 (intramolecular) interactions.  You have two atom types
>>>>>>
>>>>> that
>>>>> are not bonded, so there are no pair interactions.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I am referring to this statement in gromacs-manual: "When gen-pairs is
>>>>> set
>>>>>
>>>>> to “no,” grompp will give a warning for each pair type for which no
>>>>>> parameters are given".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My system is a pure transition metal solid that it's topol file comes
>>>>>> below:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> topol.top
>>>>>> -------------------------
>>>>>> ; topol file for A3B
>>>>>> ; force field parameters in below
>>>>>> [ Defaults ]
>>>>>> ;  nbfunc        comb-rule       gen-pairs       fudgeLJ  fudgeQQ
>>>>>>      1                   3                         no
>>>>>> 0.5       0.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ atomtypes ]
>>>>>> ;   name      mass        charge    ptype       sigma
>>>>>>  epsilon
>>>>>>      A            32.00          0.21          A        2.27357e-01
>>>>>> 25.1
>>>>>>      B            6.700         -0.63          A        1.714534e-01
>>>>>> 4.4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ moleculetype ]
>>>>>> ; Name            nrexcl
>>>>>>   A                       1
>>>>>> [ atoms ]
>>>>>> ;  nr     at type  resnr   residue   atom name   cgnr     charge
>>>>>>  mass
>>>>>>    1            A         1          A                   A
>>>>>> 1       0.21           32.00
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ position_restraints ]
>>>>>> ; ai  funct  fcx    fcy    fcz
>>>>>>    1    1    2000   2000   2000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ moleculetype ]
>>>>>> ; Name            nrexcl
>>>>>>   B               1
>>>>>> [ atoms ]
>>>>>> ;  nr     at type  resnr   residue   atom name   cgnr     charge
>>>>>>  mass
>>>>>>    1                              B        1          B          B
>>>>>> 1      -0.630         6.70
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ position_restraints ]
>>>>>> ; ai  funct  fcx    fcy    fcz
>>>>>>    1    1    2000   2000   2000
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ system ]
>>>>>> ; Name
>>>>>>    A3B
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ molecules ]
>>>>>> ;mol_name number
>>>>>>    A    14400
>>>>>>    B     4800
>>>>>> -----------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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