[gmx-users] regarding pbc issue

[Rose]

I mean, sometimes structures may really break or collapse, in these situations trjconv won't show these broken structures whole yes?
just will show them broken (as they really are) yes?

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> On Jan 17, 2018, at 18:15, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
> 
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>> On 1/17/18 9:40 AM, Rose wrote:
>> You mean if -pbc could make molecule whole,everything is ok, but if not it means the molecule was broken from first, yes?
> 
> mdrun writes "broken" coordinates because the physics does not depend on our visualization convenience. Most programs account for PBC. Some don't. It is generally a safe practice to just make molecules whole as your first step in trjconv and avoid any ambiguity.
> 
> -Justin
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>>> On Jan 17, 2018, at 16:19, Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu> wrote:
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>>> 
>>>> On 1/17/18 5:51 AM, Vidya R wrote:
>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>> 
>>>> I got the same result as you said.
>>>> 
>>>> What confused me was,  when I viewed movie.pdb file generated by the
>>>> following command,
>>>> 
>>>>  gmx trjconv -pbc nojump -s PRD-SMP3.gro -f PRD-SMP3.xtc -e 10000.0 -n
>>>> index.ndx -o movie.pdb
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> two hydrogen molecules of my organic compound, were unbonded to my molecule
>>>> (which is not supposed to be).  They are far away from molecules (their
>>>> bonds were broken)
>>>> 
>>>> Is it a pbc problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Because, when I used
>>>> 
>>>> gmx trjconv -pbc whole -s PRD.tpr -f PRD.xtc -o trajwhole.xtc
>>>> gmx trjconv -pbc nojump -s PRD.tpr -f trajwhole.xtc -o trajcluster.xtc
>>>> gmx trjconv -pbc mol -center -s PRD.tpr -f trajcluster.xtc -o newtraj.xtc
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> and created a .pdb file with newtraj.xtc, the whole molecule was intact.
>>> Making molecules whole should always be the first step. If you try to remove jumps with "broken" molecules, what you visualize will be garbage. A separate issue is with respect to the analysis programs - many are PBC-aware and can handle the original trajectory without manipulation.
>>> 
>>> -Justin
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