[gmx-users] Charmm27 and Charmm36 atomtypes assignments for polymer

Mijiddorj B b.mijiddorj at gmail.com
Sun Dec 1 23:44:05 CET 2019


Dear Justin,

Thank you very much for your response.
I copied the ITP file that generated Charmm-gui. I am sorry for copied this
long residue topology. The residue contains two capping groups that belong
to first six atoms and the last six atoms. I thought that if I cut the
first 6 atoms, the rest is the last residue. Similarly, after cut the last
6 atoms, the rest will show the first residue of the polymer. If I cut both
ends, I can get the internal residue of the polymer. However, the first
and  the last 6 atoms possess + 0.002 net charges. Because of this
difference, my three residues assigned as the non-neutral from pdb2gmx.
How can I solve this problem without any QM calculations?

[ atoms ]
; nr type resnr residu atom cgnr charge mass
     1      NG321      1      PEI     N1      1     -0.876    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.876
     2     HGPAM2      1      PEI     H1      2      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.578
     3     HGPAM2      1      PEI     H2      3      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.280
     4      CG321      1      PEI     C1      4      0.102    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.178
     5       HGA2      1      PEI     H3      5      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.088
     6       HGA2      1      PEI     H4      6      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.002

     7      CG321      1      PEI     C2      7      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot  0.093
     8       HGA2      1      PEI     H5      8      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.183
     9       HGA2      1      PEI     H6      9      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.273
    10      NG301      1      PEI     N2     10     -0.819    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.546
    11      CG321      1      PEI     C3     11      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.455
    12       HGA2      1      PEI     H7     12      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.365
    13       HGA2      1      PEI     H8     13      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.275
    14      CG321      1      PEI     C4     14      0.005    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.270
    15       HGA2      1      PEI     H9     15      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.180
    16       HGA2      1      PEI    H10     16      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.090
    17      NG311      1      PEI     N3     17     -0.666    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.756
    18     HGPAM1      1      PEI    H11     18      0.300     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.456
    19      CG321      1      PEI     C5     19      0.005    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.451
    20       HGA2      1      PEI    H12     20      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.361
    21       HGA2      1      PEI    H13     21      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.271
    22      CG321      1      PEI     C6     22      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.180
    23       HGA2      1      PEI    H14     23      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.090
    24       HGA2      1      PEI    H15     24      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.000
    25      NG301      1      PEI     N4     25     -0.817    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.817
    26      CG321      1      PEI     C7     26      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.726
    27       HGA2      1      PEI    H16     27      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.636
    28       HGA2      1      PEI    H17     28      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.546
    29      CG321      1      PEI     C8     29      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.455
    30       HGA2      1      PEI    H18     30      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.365
    31       HGA2      1      PEI    H19     31      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.275
    32      NG301      1      PEI     N5     32     -0.815    14.0070   ;
qtot -1.090
    33      CG321      1      PEI     C9     33      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.999
    34       HGA2      1      PEI    H20     34      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.909
    35       HGA2      1      PEI    H21     35      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.819
    36      CG321      1      PEI    C10     36      0.005    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.814
    37       HGA2      1      PEI    H22     37      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.724
    38       HGA2      1      PEI    H23     38      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.634
    39      NG311      1      PEI     N6     39     -0.669    14.0070   ;
qtot -1.303
    40     HGPAM1      1      PEI    H24     40      0.300     1.0080   ;
qtot -1.003
    41      CG321      1      PEI    C11     41      0.004    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.999
    42       HGA2      1      PEI    H25     42      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.909
    43       HGA2      1      PEI    H26     43      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.819
    44      CG321      1      PEI    C12     44      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.728
    45       HGA2      1      PEI    H27     45      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.638
    46       HGA2      1      PEI    H28     46      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.548
    47      CG321      1      PEI    C13     47      0.102    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.446
    48       HGA2      1      PEI    H29     48      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.356
    49       HGA2      1      PEI    H30     49      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.266
    50      NG321      1      PEI     N7     50     -0.876    14.0070   ;
qtot -1.142
    51     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H31     51      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.844
    52     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H32     52      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.546
    53      CG321      1      PEI    C14     53      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.455
    54       HGA2      1      PEI    H33     54      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.365
    55       HGA2      1      PEI    H34     55      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.275
    56      CG321      1      PEI    C15     56      0.005    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.270
    57       HGA2      1      PEI    H35     57      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.180
    58       HGA2      1      PEI    H36     58      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.090
    59      NG311      1      PEI     N8     59     -0.669    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.759
    60     HGPAM1      1      PEI    H37     60      0.300     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.459
    61      CG321      1      PEI    C16     61      0.004    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.455
    62       HGA2      1      PEI    H38     62      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.365
    63       HGA2      1      PEI    H39     63      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.275
    64      CG321      1      PEI    C17     64      0.102    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.173
    65       HGA2      1      PEI    H40     65      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.083
    66       HGA2      1      PEI    H41     66      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.007
    67      NG321      1      PEI     N9     67     -0.876    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.869
    68     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H42     68      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.571
    69     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H43     69      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.273
    70      CG321      1      PEI    C18     70      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.182
    71       HGA2      1      PEI    H44     71      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.092
    72       HGA2      1      PEI    H45     72      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.002
    73      CG321      1      PEI    C19     73      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot  0.089
    74       HGA2      1      PEI    H46     74      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.179
    75       HGA2      1      PEI    H47     75      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.269
    76      NG301      1      PEI    N10     76     -0.817    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.548
    77      CG321      1      PEI    C20     77      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.457
    78       HGA2      1      PEI    H48     78      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.367
    79       HGA2      1      PEI    H49     79      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.277
    80      CG321      1      PEI    C21     80      0.102    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.175
    81       HGA2      1      PEI    H50     81      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.085
    82       HGA2      1      PEI    H51     82      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.005
    83      NG321      1      PEI    N11     83     -0.876    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.871
    84     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H52     84      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.573
    85     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H53     85      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.275
    86      CG321      1      PEI    C22     86      0.091    12.0110   ;
qtot -0.184
    87       HGA2      1      PEI    H54     87      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.094
    88       HGA2      1      PEI    H55     88      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.004
    89      CG321      1      PEI    C23     89      0.102    12.0110   ;
qtot  0.098
    90       HGA2      1      PEI    H56     90      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.188
    91       HGA2      1      PEI    H57     91      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.278
    92      NG321      1      PEI    N12     92     -0.876    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.598
    93     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H58     93      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.300
    94     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H59     94      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.002

    95      CG321      1      PEI    C24     95      0.102    12.0110   ;
qtot  0.100
    96       HGA2      1      PEI    H60     96      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.190
    97       HGA2      1      PEI    H61     97      0.090     1.0080   ;
qtot  0.280
    98      NG321      1      PEI    N13     98     -0.876    14.0070   ;
qtot -0.596
    99     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H62     99      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.298
   100     HGPAM2      1      PEI    H63    100      0.298     1.0080   ;
qtot -0.000


Best regards,

Mijiddorj


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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 08:21:23 -0500
> From: Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Charmm27 and Charmm36 atomtypes assignments
>         for polymer
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> On 11/29/19 3:27 AM, Mijiddorj B wrote:
> > Dear Justin,
> >
> > As you suggested, I generated the charmm36 parameter using cgenff for
> > single unit with two capping groups. After that, I created 3 residues
> based
> > on the parameter of cgenff including N-ter side, Middle, and C-ter side
> > residues. However, the net charges of these residues are not equal to
> zero
> > as -0.002, -0.004, and -0.002, respectively.
> >
> > 1. How can I adjust the charge of these residue?
>
> Your model compound surely didn't have a net -0.008 charge, so make sure
> you're assigning charges correctly. Without seeing your actual residue
> definitions, there's nothing I (or anyone else) can suggest.
>
> > 2. Is it possible to run simulation ignoring the grompp comments?
>
> When grompp tells you there's a problem, don't ignore it. If you're
> trying to simply override these unphysical charges, your simulation will
> be useless because your model does not reflect reality.
>
> -Justin
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 08:22:15 -0500
> From: Justin Lemkul <jalemkul at vt.edu>
> To: gmx-users at gromacs.org
> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Calculation of RMSF
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> On 11/29/19 5:53 AM, Mala L Radhakrishnan wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am confused a bit by this answer -- isn't the file specified by -s used
> > for defining the rmsf (this is what is called the "reference" structure
> in
> > the documentation, and I have found that my results do vary using a
> > different "-s" file)...?  Or is that just used for fitting and then the
> > average of the resulting fitted structures is used for the rmsf?
> > Specifically, what is the "-s" uased for in this case?
>
> It is used for fitting. RMSF is simply the standard deviation of
> position, so an average structure is computed from the selected frames
> and the RMSF is computed from it.
>
> -Justin
>
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> Assistant Professor
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