[gmx-users] Re: CHARMM .mdp settings for GPU

Rajat Desikan rajatdesikan at gmail.com
Fri Nov 8 05:32:38 CET 2013


Dear All,
The setting that I mentioned above are from Klauda et al., for a POPE
membrane system. They can be found in charmm_npt.mdp in lipidbook (link
below)
http://lipidbook.bioch.ox.ac.uk/package/show/id/48.html

Is there any reason not to use their .mdp parameters for a membrane-protein
system? Justin's recommendation is highly valued since I am using his
forcefield. Justin, your comments please

To summarize:
Klauda et al., suggest
rlist                      = 1.0
rlistlong                = 1.4
rvdw_switch          = 0.8
vdwtype                = Switch
coulombtype          = pme
DispCorr                = EnerPres     ;only usefull with reaction-field
and pme or pppm
rcoulomb               = 1.0
rcoulomb_switch    = 0.0
rvdw                     = 1.2

Justin's recommendation (per mail above)
vdwtype = switch
rlist = 1.2
rlistlong = 1.4
rvdw = 1.2
rvdw-switch = 1.0
rcoulomb = 1.2


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 2:20 AM, Gianluca Interlandi [via GROMACS] <
ml-node+s5086n5012329h44 at n6.nabble.com> wrote:

> Hi Mark!
>
> I think that this is the paper that you are referring to:
>
> dx.doi.org/10.1021/ct900549r
>
> Also for your reference, these are the settings that Justin recommended
> using with CHARMM in gromacs:
>
> vdwtype = switch
> rlist = 1.2
> rlistlong = 1.4
> rvdw = 1.2
> rvdw-switch = 1.0
> rcoulomb = 1.2
>
> As you mention the switch function in gromacs is different than in CHARMM
> but it appears that the difference is very small.
>
> Gianluca
>
> On Thu, 7 Nov 2013, Mark Abraham wrote:
>
> > Reasonable, but CPU-only is not 100% conforming either; IIRC the CHARMM
> > switch differs from the GROMACS switch (Justin linked a paper here with
> the
> > CHARMM switch description a month or so back, but I don't have that link
> to
> > hand).
> >
> > Mark
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 8:45 PM, rajat desikan <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5012329&i=0>>wrote:
>
> >
> >> Thank you, Mark. I think that running it on CPUs is a safer choice at
> >> present.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Mark Abraham <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5012329&i=1>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> It's not easy to be explicit. CHARMM wasn't parameterized with PME, so
> >> the
> >>> original paper's coulomb settings can be taken with a grain of salt
> for
> >> use
> >>> with PME - others' success in practice should be a guideline here. The
> >> good
> >>> news is that the default GROMACS PME settings are pretty good for at
> >> least
> >>> some problems (http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/ct4005068), and
> the
> >> GPU
> >>> auto-tuning of parameters in 4.6 is designed to preserve the right
> sorts
> >> of
> >>> things.
> >>>
> >>> LJ is harder because it would make good sense to preserve the way
> CHARMM
> >>> did it, but IIRC you can't use something equivalent to the CHARMM LJ
> >> shift
> >>> with the Verlet kernels, either natively or with a table. We hope to
> fix
> >>> that in 5.0, but code is not written yet. I would probably use vdwtype
> =
> >>> cut-off, vdw-modifier = potential-shift-verlet and
> >> rcoulomb=rlist=rvdw=1.2,
> >>> but I don't run CHARMM simulations for a living ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Mark
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Rajat Desikan <[hidden email]<http://user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&node=5012329&i=2>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Dear All,
> >>>>
> >>>> Any suggestions?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you.
> >>>>
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> >> Prof. K. Ganapathy Ayappa's Lab (no 13),
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Rajat Desikan (Ph.D Scholar)
Prof. K. Ganapathy Ayappa's Lab (no 13),
Dept. of Chemical Engineering,
Indian Institute of Science, Bangalore


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